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Old 06-05-2008, 10:40 PM   #61
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I believe that the problem with blackwater lies with the fact that they hire ex- special forces member who are trained to kill. This is an aspect of their training, as they are given advanced training in lethal force. So when you recruit these guys, and send them over as "security" against AK toting Iraqis, they do what is second nature to them when the situation arises. I may be wrong, but this is my .02.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:58 PM   #62
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Blackwater is paid by our government and should be held responsible by our government. The FBI is investigating the shooting in Nisour Square. They do actually serve a purpose in this war. If they step out of line our goverment should hold them responsible. If our government fails to do this all bets are off. They do operate in the US and everywhere else. I believe anyone can hire them, but they are not above the law. The problem with their operations in Iraq is that they often are "the law". They Iraqi government says they would like them to cease operations within their country, but the US says they stay.
Blackwater waging war on American citizens is not likely. Blackwater being paid to defend our country if we come under attack is pretty much guaranteed.

I don't think are government is dumb enough to wage war on it's citizens. Not all out war anyways. Without us they would have to work for a living.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:18 AM   #63
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Blackwater is paid by our government and should be held responsible by our government. The FBI is investigating the shooting in Nisour Square. They do actually serve a purpose in this war. If they step out of line our goverment should hold them responsible. If our government fails to do this all bets are off. They do operate in the US and everywhere else. I believe anyone can hire them, but they are not above the law. The problem with their operations in Iraq is that they often are "the law". They Iraqi government says they would like them to cease operations within their country, but the US says they stay.
Blackwater waging war on American citizens is not likely. Blackwater being paid to defend our country if we come under attack is pretty much guaranteed.

I don't think are government is dumb enough to wage war on it's citizens. Not all out war anyways. Without us they would have to work for a living.
This is true!!
As dumb as they appear, such action would start a revolution.

As for the rest of it. They should be under military control and abide by the same rules as everyone else we have in Iraq. There would be no need for a government investigation if such a system was in place.
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I tend to be more worried about the folks in Congress and the candidates running for Prez than BW when it comes to threats to our liberty, but you are entitled to your fears.
No fear just apprehension of the possibilities.
I am also more worried about congress and the candidates.

So back to possibilities ... Imagine the level of resistance that would be required if a civilian Disarmament agreement was signed, and someone like Obama requested UN and BW support to complete the effort.

You know as well as I do that the potential is there with this candidate, and that he has sponsored a bill to this effect He is IMO, the essence of ... The Worst
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No fear just apprehension of the possibilities.
I am also more worried about congress and the candidates.

So back to possibilities ... Imagine the level of resistance that would be required if a civilian Disarmament agreement was signed, and someone like Obama requested UN and BW support to complete the effort.

You know as well as I do that the potential is there with this candidate, and that he has sponsored a bill to this effect He is IMO, the essence of ... The Worst

Hence the need and requirement of a citizen, regardless of politics, to make a decision for his own liberties, or have submission to the State (jail, institution for rehab... whatever). BW is a renegade unit that is taxpayer funded. Nuff said. No accountabality. Makes them very dangerous.
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...since Blackwater isn't official US military, fighting them technically doesn't count as treason. You can hold the moral high ground to even against the die-hard loyalists.
I wonder how the fact that they are NOT Official U.S. Military play into the "Rules of War" over in Iraq?

If the Terrorist's started targeting/killing Blackwater employee's, would our Government count them as Civilian deaths?

If an Iraqi Civilian who's family is murdered by a BlackWater Mercenary, get's some (well deserved) revenge on the "Contract Soldier" and takes him out.....
-Does that Iraqi become an "Enemy Combatant"?
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I wonder how the fact that they are NOT Official U.S. Military play into the "Rules of War" over in Iraq?

If the Terrorist's started targeting/killing Blackwater employee's, would our Government count them as Civilian deaths?

If an Iraqi Civilian who's family is murdered by a BlackWater Mercenary, get's some (well deserved) revenge on the "Contract Soldier" and takes him out.....
-Does that Iraqi become an "Enemy Combatant"?
Our government and those in the Pentagon who work for our government pretend not to count any contractor deaths be they warriors, truck drivers, dish washers or food service workers. It just wouldn't look good if the American people were told the truth about how many Americans are really getting killed over there.
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Old 06-06-2008, 07:21 PM   #68
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I want a fighter Jet.

let me see If I can sneek one out of work

make me an ofer on a block 25 F-16 we have 25 im sure they won't miss one
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I always think of Ravenwood from Jericho when I hear Blackwater. Blackwater's private air force... interesting...
So, who's playing the role of Jennings & Rall?
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