Oh crap...we're screwed....

[livinloud5]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Yea mis-understood. Your first comment was

What do you expect ??

My quesion about years was a reference to how many years of service you have completed thus far. For all the good/bad that they do ... They don't hire off the streets. So YES ... Years has a lot to do with it. They also don't hire just any prior service individual. My understanding is they prefer SpecOps personnel and pretty much ignore everyone else.

If you want to make a career with a group like Blackwater you'll need to get used to a no rules environment. That's what they do, and that's why I don't like or trust such groups. I'm sure there are some fine individuals within this group. But the bottom line equates to a contractual ability to ignore any laws per a contract for money. I'm not to keen on people who buy off legal systems ... So ya wanna guess how I feel about those who are the receivers of the buy off ???

I just hope that ... If the day ever comes ... Many of Blackwater's personel remember their military oath and ignore unConstitutional missions within the United States.

I guess we need groups like Blackwater in Iraq. But they really should be under military authority and subject to the same restrictions our troops operate under.

Best of luck with your career choices and think way beyond Iraq. Do a little research into covert ops and overpaid security contractors. You might even want to rent Clear & Present Danger and pay attention to the people working for the drug cartel. Because when the wars are not happening you'll need to do something, and the CIA/DEA/FBI etcetera already have some good people, and the higher-ups in Blackwater will be watching out for themselves as the pink slips are issued.

If I am out of line, please get a lot more specific. But honestly, from what you've wrote ... I think a little internal reflection about the future might be a good thing.
Do some reading SpecialForces.net - and talk to a recruiter. It will be good for your resume, regardless of what you do in the future.

AZXD steps of soapbox.

I should have worded it differently. I meant that i would like my career to be with some sort of private contracting group, not just BW.

I currently don't have any years under my belt now, but tons of proffesional training.

Lots of good info on BW here, might i add.

Blake.

[Ishpeck]

Hey, guys! Look at the bright side: If the Feds ever send Blackwater against you, chances are good that your state's National Guard and your local law enforcers will be on your side.

And since Blackwater isn't official US military, fighting them technically doesn't count as treason. You can hold the moral high ground to even against the die-hard loyalists.

In fact, if Blackwater ever DID mobilize in my state, Utah State's legal code would define THEM as the traitors. Pretty much means Blackwater's screwed.

[Samf]

Read Empire by Orson Scott Card. Throws out a situation where the Left attacks the Right in a new civil war. He might have predicted more than he knew. It's a quick read, I finished it in about a day. It's entirely fiction and encorporates only slightly some of his Sci-Fi roots.

[Ishpeck]

Originally Posted by Samf

Read Empire by Orson Scott Card. Throws out a situation where the Left attacks the Right in a new civil war. He might have predicted more than he knew. It's a quick read, I finished it in about a day. It's entirely fiction and encorporates only slightly some of his Sci-Fi roots.

AND it illustrates the tactical uselessness of bipedal, walking robots.

[chupacabrachus]

Originally Posted by Ishpeck

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In fact, if Blackwater ever DID mobilize in my state, Utah State's legal code would define THEM as the traitors. Pretty much means Blackwater's screwed.

Which raises another point. Being mercs, other countries who name the right price can most likely obtain their services.

[devildog12210]

Originally Posted by chupacabrachus

Which raises another point. Being mercs, other countries who name the right price can most likely obtain their services.

Thats crazy when you stop and think about it?!?!?!

[Ishpeck]

Originally Posted by chupacabrachus

Which raises another point. Being mercs, other countries who name the right price can most likely obtain their services.

Those countries know better than to provoke the one and only country that actually used a nuclear weapon on an enemy country.

Don't think we won't do it again, folks!

Other countries' militaries are just the fleshy ammo delivery service. They kindly deliver foreign weapons to our rare gun collector culture. It's great.

WOLVERINES!

[Samf]

Originally Posted by Ishpeck

AND it illustrates the tactical uselessness of bipedal, walking robots.

YESSS!!!!!! Haha, you have to have read it to know that. What I want to know is how you can make a glue that strong that dries that fast; lot's of fun to be had with that.

[IamCPTSpalding]

Originally Posted by Ishpeck

Hey, guys! Look at the bright side: If the Feds ever send Blackwater against you, chances are good that your state's National Guard and your local law enforcers will be on your side.

And since Blackwater isn't official US military, fighting them technically doesn't count as treason. You can hold the moral high ground to even against the die-hard loyalists.

In fact, if Blackwater ever DID mobilize in my state, Utah State's legal code would define THEM as the traitors. Pretty much means Blackwater's screwed.

Sounds as if any mobilization of any organized group against the Citizens of the United States, would be considered a traitorous act against my sovereignty as a citizen. Therefore, it would be my duty as a well armed citizen to organize a militia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia) and DEFEND my RIGHTS, PROPERTY, AND WAY OF LIFE!!!!

One man made a difference. His name was George Washington. He had a lot of help.

If the Fascist let loose the Dog of War on the people, then it is up to the “people” to fight back. If there is no fight, there is no freedom.
The people in Louisiana that gave up their weapons are a prime example of the willingness and brainwashed attitude that the Government knows best. The Government is going to “GIVE ME” (insert whatever here) ie… safety, money, freedom. I don’t want Government freedom, I want freedom from Government. The 14th amendment of the Constituion line 1: " border="0" alt="" />No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". I secured my property and family with food, water, and ammunition as others evacuated the Gulf Coast. I prepared my home for the very worst. The Sheriff and Constable came by, checked on our position and left. We were safe and needed no “help” from the authoritarian. Without a warrant he would have been a trespasser/looter in my eyes, and would have been treated as such had he not identified himself properly.

So, I know it sounds like a movie, or maybe a crazy story of the hold out guy who’s been stuck on the hill too long, but if the fancy cars/trucks pull up outside… and the round up of the citizens starts… then that makes a target rich environment.All the training in the world and all the $200,000 thousand dollars a year volunteers don’t mean crap when a well placed shot from a secured location zips through an eye socket.

Any Government not scared of the people is a Government with too much power. Government contracted thugs can do it over-seas. If it happens here, we-as citizen soldiers- should be prepared to defend against all tyrannies pressed upon us.

Choose your career wisely. I gave eight years to the service. I chose a career in Family after that. I am still a soldier, a citizen, and a believer in liberty. Professionalism does not ensure Honor. Honor is a choice.

BTW…I don’t believe BW is cool. I believe they are a bunch of lost soldiers looking for a club. They should have donated time to the scouts, or re-enlisted….
Just my opinion.

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by Ishpeck
Hey, guys! Look at the bright side: If the Feds ever send Blackwater against you, chances are good that your state's National Guard and your local law enforcers will be on your side.

The bad side to this is BW people are much better trained/experienced than most of our NG and local law enforcers. I'll put my money on BW any day against NG's on a government budget and the junk equipment our government gives them.