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Old 06-01-2008, 07:11 PM   #1
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Talking CCW story.

On May 25, the Sunday before Memorial Day, police were called to Players Bar and Grill located in Winnemucca, Nevada on a report of multiple shots fired. By the time they arrived, the incident was over.

Reports indicated that the shooter entered the bar and began firing at patrons reportedly due to an ongoing family dispute. At least two men were killed during the initial volley, after which the shooter stopped to reload. After he began shooting again, another bar patron, who had a ccw licence, drew his concealed handgun and killed the shooter.

The CCW holder was taken into custody, but released after Humboldt County District Attorney Russell Smith determined it was justifiable homicide.

Had this happened in Ohio, it is very likely that others would have died since Ohio bans ccw in bars even if you're not legally impaired. The mass murderer ignored all gun control laws put into place to supposedly stop him and carried out his crime anyway. Who knows how many more would have died by the time police were able to respond and stop him themselves. It was only because a law abiding citizen had the training and the means to stop the crime that more innocent lives we not lost.

Disarming citizens does not make them safer, it makes it easier to commit crimes against them.
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:20 PM   #2
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Disarming citizens does not make them safer, it makes it easier to commit crimes against them.
Absolutely. That situation could have been much worse, yet I'm sure many politicians will still hold this as yet another reason all guns should be illegal . Kudos to anyone who carries responsibly and legally and has the presence of mind and ability to act as he did in order to diffuse a potentially horrific situation.
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:29 PM   #3
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disarming citizens just leaves law breaks with guns. kudos to the ccw holder. gun laws just make politicians and sissies feel good about themselves for an hour or 2.
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Fantastic. I feel terrible for the families of the affected/killed. What a shame.

Kudos to the patron who stopped the madness. Excellent shot. Too bad the other guy made the decision for him.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:32 AM   #5
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In Louisiana you can't carry in bars either or restaurants who server a certain percentage of alcohol.
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:03 AM   #6
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now, i frequent restaurants with "bars" - are these restricted too? Nevadans help me out here.
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In Louisiana you can't carry in bars either or restaurants who server a certain percentage of alcohol.
Texas is the same.
If an establishment receives over 51% of its revenue from alcohol,
I can't legally carry in it..
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:22 PM   #8
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now, i frequent restaurants with "bars" - are these restricted too? Nevadans help me out here.
You can carry in a bar in Nevada. You can carry while drinking in Nevada. The legal limit in Nevada is 0.10% while carrying a gun, but 0.08% for driving. The limit was lowered for driving to meet Federal requirements, but they never lowered the gun carry limit.

Also, the limit does NOT apply if you're in your home if possession of the gun is for self defense.

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NRS 202.257 Possession of firearm when under influence of alcohol, controlled substance or other intoxicating substance; administration of evidentiary test; penalty; forfeiture of firearm. 1. It is unlawful for a person who:
(a) Has a concentration of alcohol of 0.10 or more in his blood or breath; or
(b) Is under the influence of any controlled substance, or is under the combined influence of intoxicating liquor and a controlled substance, or any person who inhales, ingests, applies or otherwise uses any chemical, poison or organic solvent, or any compound or combination of any of these, to a degree which renders him incapable of safely exercising actual physical control of a firearm,
Ê to have in his actual physical possession any firearm. This prohibition does not apply to the actual physical possession of a firearm by a person who was within his personal residence and had the firearm in his possession solely for self-defense.
2. Any evidentiary test to determine whether a person has violated the provisions of subsection 1 must be administered in the same manner as an evidentiary test that is administered pursuant to NRS 484.383 to 484.3947, inclusive, except that submission to the evidentiary test is required of any person who is directed by a police officer to submit to the test. If a person to be tested fails to submit to a required test as directed by a police officer, the officer may direct that reasonable force be used to the extent necessary to obtain the samples of blood from the person to be tested, if the officer has reasonable cause to believe that the person to be tested was in violation of this section.
3. Any person who violates the provisions of subsection 1 is guilty of a misdemeanor.
4. A firearm is subject to forfeiture pursuant to NRS 179.1156 to 179.119, inclusive, only if, during the violation of subsection 1, the firearm is brandished, aimed or otherwise handled by the person in a manner which endangered others.
5. As used in this section, the phrase “concentration of alcohol of 0.10 or more in his blood or breath” means 0.10 gram or more of alcohol per 100 milliliters of the blood of a person or per 210 liters of his breath.
(Added to NRS by 1995, 2533; A 1999, 2470; 2003, 2565)

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Old 06-02-2008, 11:53 PM   #9
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you can not carry in bars in florida, but you can go in a resturaun with a bar, you just cant go into the bar part.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:00 AM   #10
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GA has just changed their laws, effective July 1, to allow carry into a restaurant or bar as long as the person carrying does not drink and has a GFL (CCW). There's more to the bill, like carrying on public transit with a GFL but the bottom line is that the laws have finally relaxed here a little bit. It used to be one of the most restrictive states in terms of where you could carry in the country.
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