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js05_14 · 05-31-2008, 03:43 PM

I had my CCW class today and one of the insturctors is a federal marshal. He said that he was involved in three shootings in which he killed the bad guy. All of the legal issues for two of the shootings were taken care of by the govt. because he was on duty. The other one was several years ago and completely self defense and the civil court cases still cost him $40,000 and took five years to work out. Anyone have any similar experiences or know how much it would cost now to justifiably defend yourself using deadly force?

**nikon777** · 05-31-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by js05_14

I had my CCW class today and one of the insturctors is a federal marshal. He said that he was involved in three shootings in which he killed the bad guy. All of the legal issues for two of the shootings were taken care of by the govt. because he was on duty. The other one was several years ago and completely self defense and the civil court cases still cost him $40,000 and took five years to work out. Anyone have any similar experiences or know how much it would cost now to justifiably defend yourself using deadly force?

Castle Doctrine.

texas_rebel_1980 · 05-31-2008, 03:46 PM

wow, he has killed three people? not saying he is trigger happy but damn. i understand his job is high risk though, so that is understandable. but wow, three. i can only imagine how costly it is.

js05_14 · 05-31-2008, 03:47 PM

It sounded like he was involved in other shootouts as well.

**nikon777** · 05-31-2008, 04:01 PM

If your state has castle doctrine it protects you from civil suits.

js05_14 · 05-31-2008, 04:27 PM

Not 100%, but I think in Arkansas the castle doctrine only covers you if the situation in on your property.

Cuda · 05-31-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nikon777

If your state has castle doctrine it protects you from civil suits.

Alabama has that so I don't need to worry about civil suits if I shoot somebody defending myself, family, friends or my home.

Oremus · 05-31-2008, 04:38 PM

3 fatal shootings is pretty typical for a lot of PD in certain parts of AZ... there's nothing trigger happy about it - at least I hope not.

To the OP: I went to Gunsite for my CCW and the instructor mentioned a local case that spanned several years and tallied somewhere close to $150,000 in lawyers fees, court costs etc... He recommended a general liability insurance policy to the tune of $1million if you can afford it and plan to CCW. My business general liability only costs like $230 year - I don't have a personal gen liab. but probably should - if you break it down it's like $20 / month.

**AZXD** · 05-31-2008, 05:44 PM

Castle Doctrine, Hassle Doctrine.

One of the first sentences out of my CCW instructors mouth was,
"Who has a lawyer & are the qualified to defend you if you have to shoot someone ?"

That was followed by,
"GET ONE! You may never need it, but the retainer fee is better than the yellow pages."

oldfart · 05-31-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AZXD

Castle Doctrine, Hassle Doctrine.

One of the first sentences out of my CCW instructors mouth was,
"Who has a lawyer & are the qualified to defend you if you have to shoot someone ?"

That was followed by,
"GET ONE! You may never need it, but the retainer fee is better than the yellow pages."

+1
Heard the same from our instructor. Was told to check out www.concealedcarrylegal.com and Texas Concealed Handgun Association I need to look into those again, thanks for reminding me of the importance.

Our instructor also told us we should all have one person other than family members to call if we were involved in a shooting. Someone we could trust to be objective and would tell it to us like it is.

05-31-2008, 03:43 PM	#1
js05_14 XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 79	Shoot Somebody, Mucho $$$$$$ I had my CCW class today and one of the insturctors is a federal marshal. He said that he was involved in three shootings in which he killed the bad guy. All of the legal issues for two of the shootings were taken care of by the govt. because he was on duty. The other one was several years ago and completely self defense and the civil court cases still cost him $40,000 and took five years to work out. Anyone have any similar experiences or know how much it would cost now to justifiably defend yourself using deadly force?

05-31-2008, 03:46 PM	#3
texas_rebel_1980 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Seguin,Texas Posts: 1,278	wow, he has killed three people? not saying he is trigger happy but damn. i understand his job is high risk though, so that is understandable. but wow, three. i can only imagine how costly it is. __________________ It may be 5'clock somewhere, but its Beer Thirty here!!!

05-31-2008, 04:01 PM	#5
nikon777 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH. The Danger Zone. Posts: 6,823	If your state has castle doctrine it protects you from civil suits. __________________ Clinging bitterly to guns and religion since 1977.. My Blogspot.

05-31-2008, 04:38 PM	#8
Oremus XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 27	3 fatal shootings is pretty typical for a lot of PD in certain parts of AZ... there's nothing trigger happy about it - at least I hope not. To the OP: I went to Gunsite for my CCW and the instructor mentioned a local case that spanned several years and tallied somewhere close to $150,000 in lawyers fees, court costs etc... He recommended a general liability insurance policy to the tune of $1million if you can afford it and plan to CCW. My business general liability only costs like $230 year - I don't have a personal gen liab. but probably should - if you break it down it's like $20 / month. __________________ If guns kill people then why aren't our prisons full of them?

05-31-2008, 05:44 PM	#9
AZXD XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 13,170	Castle Doctrine, Hassle Doctrine. One of the first sentences out of my CCW instructors mouth was, "Who has a lawyer & are the qualified to defend you if you have to shoot someone ?" That was followed by, "GET ONE! You may never need it, but the retainer fee is better than the yellow pages." __________________ Voting for Obama is like putting a gun to your head and hoping he calls for its confiscation before you can pull the trigger - AZXD Investco Flags - Saved from Trash by McCain Another McCain gimmick... Etta Place That said, the flag is a symbol. It is not the United States. The United States is bigger than the flag... Etta Place

05-31-2008, 03:47 PM	#4
js05_14 XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 79	It sounded like he was involved in other shootouts as well.

05-31-2008, 04:27 PM	#6
js05_14 XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 79	Not 100%, but I think in Arkansas the castle doctrine only covers you if the situation in on your property.

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