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**mhillsing23** · 05-23-2008, 01:03 PM

I know I saw a thread on one gun forum months ago where one owner found a chip type device in his (I believe it was...) Sig. Anyone else?

Tempest · 05-23-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffXD

If you aren't paranoid, then you haven't been paying attention.

+1

**Ed Ely** · 05-23-2008, 02:49 PM

I would not say that anyone is
paranoid, they are just using the
brain the good Lord gave them for
deduction and reasoning. Some may
do more deduction and reasoning
than others. Simple!

If it can happen, it will happen!

Ed

FATSEXY · 05-23-2008, 02:51 PM

I was going to get a 556 later this year, I won't get one now. Guess I'll look into a Robinson XCR or a Bushmaster ACR next year.

Tempest · 05-23-2008, 03:02 PM

Ed, do you have the orginal link?

EDIT: Found it: NewsEventsStoriesPageH

**Ed Ely** · 05-23-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

Paranoid? You mean like assault weapon bans, ammunition registration and micro stamping?

Ed, do you have the link to the original story? I can't find it.

Here -

Shooting Wire

Ed

Tempest · 05-23-2008, 03:16 PM

Thanks Ed!

FATSEXY · 05-23-2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhillsing23

I know I saw a thread on one gun forum months ago where one owner found a chip type device in his (I believe it was...) Sig. Anyone else?

I think that was an HK.

TG13 · 05-23-2008, 04:39 PM

while the RFID chip can broadcast up to 100 feet, it's the RFID receivers that can "read" at a much farther distance that 100 feet..

if you have toll road passes, this is exactly how they work.. you can be more than 330 feet from the RFID reader and at up to speeds of 100MPH and it will get a positive reading of the tag.. and this is the first gen RFID..

i fully understand the uses of RFID, and it is a great technology.. but again, the chances of this tech being misused is extremely high..

IMO, the fact that Sig is installing these in weapons to inventory track them is fine.. but on the battlefield, they are nothing more than beacons for the opposition to track..

implementing this is the first step to tracking/controlling all current and retrofitted weapons.. Civilian and Gov/Military..

afaik, the HK was a P2000 that actually had the chip in it.. and it was another model that had a recess in the frame for an RFID package in it.. i remember this, because i went over my SA-XD 45 looking for one..

it's not paranoia.. it's one step from being implemented..

**mhillsing23** · 05-23-2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATSEXY

I think that was an HK.

Yeah, I think you may have been right. It could have been a USP.

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05-23-2008, 02:49 PM	#33
Ed Ely XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: 37.65N -84.76W (Elev. 932 ft) Posts: 7,833 Blog Entries: 1	I would not say that anyone is paranoid, they are just using the brain the good Lord gave them for deduction and reasoning. Some may do more deduction and reasoning than others. Simple! If it can happen, it will happen! Ed

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FATSEXY XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 712	I was going to get a 556 later this year, I won't get one now. Guess I'll look into a Robinson XCR or a Bushmaster ACR next year.

05-23-2008, 04:39 PM	#39
TG13 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Atascocita, Texas. Posts: 156	while the RFID chip can broadcast up to 100 feet, it's the RFID receivers that can "read" at a much farther distance that 100 feet.. if you have toll road passes, this is exactly how they work.. you can be more than 330 feet from the RFID reader and at up to speeds of 100MPH and it will get a positive reading of the tag.. and this is the first gen RFID.. i fully understand the uses of RFID, and it is a great technology.. but again, the chances of this tech being misused is extremely high.. IMO, the fact that Sig is installing these in weapons to inventory track them is fine.. but on the battlefield, they are nothing more than beacons for the opposition to track.. implementing this is the first step to tracking/controlling all current and retrofitted weapons.. Civilian and Gov/Military.. afaik, the HK was a P2000 that actually had the chip in it.. and it was another model that had a recess in the frame for an RFID package in it.. i remember this, because i went over my SA-XD 45 looking for one.. it's not paranoia.. it's one step from being implemented..