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missmyJeep · 05-23-2008, 10:39 AM

I know exactly where this happened. It is a nice, city maintained walk/jog/bike path about 7 miles long around "Back Bay" with a view of the Portland skyline. On a nice day, there could be hundreds of people using to path to enjoy the day.

While I am outraged that this can happen, it doesn't surprise me too awfully much.

This story comes on the heels of other "gun" stories that were not innocent. The most recent was the night before about 15 miles away. In Buxton, a Drunken man fired a shot in his house, sending his family running for cover, jumping out windows and running for their lives, then came the police and a 6 hour stand-off ~ at least that's how it was originally told...

update... WGME Streaming Video

Every time that a member on here talks about OCing in their state, it just baffles me. I grew up here in Maine and even though we are a huge hunting state, I have NEVER seen someone OC here in my forty years (unless while hunting) even though it is perfectly legal to.

I can't wait to take my CCW class in 2 weeks. My Ruger LCP should be here very soon after that for summer carry.

(I'm 6th in line at a local shop ~ $279 OTD)

lobster_roboto · 05-23-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afmo

as unfortunate as it is...people ought to know better than to walk around with a gun exposed in this political climate.

Sure it may be legal, and you may be within your rights, but is it worth getting arrested, paying bail, going to court, finding a lawyer, and running the risk that your right to own firearms is taken away forever?

unfortunate as it is...people ought to know better than to ***insert anything here*** in this political climate.

When I encounter a "checkpoint" on the freeway I exercise my 4th amendment rights.
Should I "know better" it is legal and within my rights but is it worth getting arrested, paying bail, going to court and finding a lawyer?

Yes, yes it is worth it.

To make a stand for something so precious as the founding papers of this country will always be worth it.

If it takes the small sacrifices such as temporary incarceration or fines, well that's the least I can do for my country.

mattjohnston87 · 05-23-2008, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afmo

as unfortunate as it is...people ought to know better than to walk around with a gun exposed in this political climate.

Sure it may be legal, and you may be within your rights, but is it worth getting arrested, paying bail, going to court, finding a lawyer, and running the risk that your right to own firearms is taken away forever?

So, because of some narrowminded left wing morons, people are supposed to NOT exercise their rights as American citizens? That really doesn't make sense....

Quote:

Originally Posted by panther308

You are better off carrying concealed, it just keeps things simpler

Simpler for who? The sheep of the world who are too brainwashed to realize that a legally carried firearm isn't going to up and shoot them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by devildog12210

I would rather open carry than not carry at all.

+1 brother.

Quote:

Originally Posted by afmo

the whole open carry thing always baffled me anyway. Whats the point other than to show everyone how tough guy you are?

Who said it was about being tough? Many states proved their citizens with the RIGHT to do so, as stated in the state's own constitution. If you don't agree with it, fine, but don't tread on those that choose to take hold of what has been given to them.

afmo · 05-23-2008, 01:45 PM

Once again, i post a comment that differs from the majority and i'm lambasted as a liberty hater....i've said nothing of the sort...but its well known that in this day and age, guns are a hotbutton. If you walk around with one on your hip, you are going to run into problems eventually. We can sit and argue about whether its right or wrong all day, but the fact remains that if you are going to exercise this right, you'd best not be surprised if you have to pay a lot of court fees and jump through a lot of legal hoops to defend yourself. Is it wrong that it is that way? sure...is it reality? yep...

but hey...at least no ones called me a communist yet....

Breadfan · 05-23-2008, 01:53 PM

^^You sneaky communist!

mattjohnston87 · 05-23-2008, 03:25 PM

The only reason it is the way you say it is (which i'm not disagreeing with by the way, I know what view the general, uneducated ((on this topic)), scared public has....), is because too many of US let THEM influence what we do, and which rights to exercise.

Think about it logically. If every RESPONSIBLE gun owner that could legally in his own state, open carry their handgun in a holster, on their hip in plain view, do you think the public would have the same view? Maybe, but over time, I bet you that the view would change.

If our fellow citizens do not get exposed to firearms in a legal, and safe, manner, and are only exposed to it through the media, Hollywood, and the like.... Nothing will change.

THAT is what it is.

afmo · 05-23-2008, 03:42 PM

i completely agree with you. However, there are just some places where the people don't WANT to educated and don't WANT to have their minds change...and those are the people who are going to create problems for lawful gun owners.

What it comes down to is I don't want to get arrested, incur a lot of legal fees, and run the risk of going to jail to prove a point. If thats a risk you are willing to take then best of luck to you.

alligator94 · 05-23-2008, 06:23 PM

If something is legal, don't be afraid to do it because of what other people think! If you can't exercise your rights, guess what? You don't have them!

Bree · 05-23-2008, 07:28 PM

Urban politicians and even some LEOs who are anti-gun have a method for controlling things like OC even when they are legal. They simply arrest you despite being fully aware that you will win in court. They have a much bigger budget for the court fight and prosecuters who get paid whether they work or not. The ordinary person like this guy who got whacked have very limited funds for defense.

The result is simple... very few people OC in these areas. Ultimately you have to choose whether you are willing to be an activist and pay the defense fees to OC or whether you simply get your CCW and carry concealed. It's a matter of personal preference where most will CCW and some will OC where they can.

Myself... I don't OC in any state that allows local preemption. I don't OC in any state where there are known deterrence arrests going on. If OC is generally accepted and not controversial, I do it. But otherwise, I am just not willing to pay $25,000 in legal fees to stay free when I can avoid getting into trouble in the first place.

I respect those who OC anywhere it is technically legal. But I'm not like you... so you do it your way and I'll do it mine.

Terry · 05-23-2008, 11:14 PM

Unless the laws have changed in the past few years. You could open carry in Maine. But you had to have a valid hunting license even out of hunting season. If you do not have a CC permit.

All the years i lived in Maine, very seldom saw anyone OC. Unless you was in in the COUNTY. The northern part of the state in tater country. Then you would see a lot of OC. Mostly around Indian reservations. Then again they have there own set of laws on reservations as far as hunting, fishing, and gun rules.

05-23-2008, 10:39 AM	#31
missmyJeep XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland, Maine Posts: 392	I know exactly where this happened. It is a nice, city maintained walk/jog/bike path about 7 miles long around "Back Bay" with a view of the Portland skyline. On a nice day, there could be hundreds of people using to path to enjoy the day. While I am outraged that this can happen, it doesn't surprise me too awfully much. This story comes on the heels of other "gun" stories that were not innocent. The most recent was the night before about 15 miles away. In Buxton, a Drunken man fired a shot in his house, sending his family running for cover, jumping out windows and running for their lives, then came the police and a 6 hour stand-off ~ at least that's how it was originally told... update... WGME Streaming Video Every time that a member on here talks about OCing in their state, it just baffles me. I grew up here in Maine and even though we are a huge hunting state, I have NEVER seen someone OC here in my forty years (unless while hunting) even though it is perfectly legal to. I can't wait to take my CCW class in 2 weeks. My Ruger LCP should be here very soon after that for summer carry. (I'm 6th in line at a local shop ~ $279 OTD) __________________ ~ mmJeep If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid looking in a mirror, because I bet that will really throw you into a panic. XD .40 5" Tactical w/ night sights XD .40 sub-compact (Jan. 08.) Ruger LCP (June 08.) S&W Model 686 4" .357 mag Ruger Model 77 .30-06 Remington pump 7600 police model carbine .308 J.C. Penny bolt action .22lr (from Dad)

05-23-2008, 01:45 PM	#34
afmo XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,873	Once again, i post a comment that differs from the majority and i'm lambasted as a liberty hater....i've said nothing of the sort...but its well known that in this day and age, guns are a hotbutton. If you walk around with one on your hip, you are going to run into problems eventually. We can sit and argue about whether its right or wrong all day, but the fact remains that if you are going to exercise this right, you'd best not be surprised if you have to pay a lot of court fees and jump through a lot of legal hoops to defend yourself. Is it wrong that it is that way? sure...is it reality? yep... but hey...at least no ones called me a communist yet.... __________________ What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant

05-23-2008, 01:53 PM	#35
Breadfan XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Croatia Posts: 919	^^You sneaky communist! __________________ Listen to the IPSC song! Listen to the XD Song! House of the Rising Sun (cover)

05-23-2008, 03:25 PM	#36
mattjohnston87 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 6,436	The only reason it is the way you say it is (which i'm not disagreeing with by the way, I know what view the general, uneducated ((on this topic)), scared public has....), is because too many of US let THEM influence what we do, and which rights to exercise. Think about it logically. If every RESPONSIBLE gun owner that could legally in his own state, open carry their handgun in a holster, on their hip in plain view, do you think the public would have the same view? Maybe, but over time, I bet you that the view would change. If our fellow citizens do not get exposed to firearms in a legal, and safe, manner, and are only exposed to it through the media, Hollywood, and the like.... Nothing will change. THAT is what it is. __________________ -Matt aka 'Sneaky Pete'

05-23-2008, 03:42 PM	#37
afmo XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,873	i completely agree with you. However, there are just some places where the people don't WANT to educated and don't WANT to have their minds change...and those are the people who are going to create problems for lawful gun owners. What it comes down to is I don't want to get arrested, incur a lot of legal fees, and run the risk of going to jail to prove a point. If thats a risk you are willing to take then best of luck to you. __________________ What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant

05-23-2008, 06:23 PM	#38
alligator94 XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 30	If something is legal, don't be afraid to do it because of what other people think! If you can't exercise your rights, guess what? You don't have them!

05-23-2008, 07:28 PM	#39
Bree XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,260 Blog Entries: 5	Urban politicians and even some LEOs who are anti-gun have a method for controlling things like OC even when they are legal. They simply arrest you despite being fully aware that you will win in court. They have a much bigger budget for the court fight and prosecuters who get paid whether they work or not. The ordinary person like this guy who got whacked have very limited funds for defense. The result is simple... very few people OC in these areas. Ultimately you have to choose whether you are willing to be an activist and pay the defense fees to OC or whether you simply get your CCW and carry concealed. It's a matter of personal preference where most will CCW and some will OC where they can. Myself... I don't OC in any state that allows local preemption. I don't OC in any state where there are known deterrence arrests going on. If OC is generally accepted and not controversial, I do it. But otherwise, I am just not willing to pay $25,000 in legal fees to stay free when I can avoid getting into trouble in the first place. I respect those who OC anywhere it is technically legal. But I'm not like you... so you do it your way and I'll do it mine. __________________ Shoot Straight and Ride Safe! Bree XD .45 Compact -- Ruger SP-101 .357 Mag. -- Keltec P3AT .380 Rock River Arms 20" Varmint A4 AR-15 w/4-16x56mm MilDot Ruger 10/22 Black Stainless Mossberg 590 Mariner 12 Ga w/Knoxx SpecOps Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide Patriot Guard Rider Iron Butt Association Member The 60's Can't Die As Long As I Won't Leave Them!! I support McCain-Palin with CA$H!

05-23-2008, 11:14 PM	#40
Terry XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorthPole, Alaska Posts: 569	Unless the laws have changed in the past few years. You could open carry in Maine. But you had to have a valid hunting license even out of hunting season. If you do not have a CC permit. All the years i lived in Maine, very seldom saw anyone OC. Unless you was in in the COUNTY. The northern part of the state in tater country. Then you would see a lot of OC. Mostly around Indian reservations. Then again they have there own set of laws on reservations as far as hunting, fishing, and gun rules. __________________ Be safe and always watch your back trail Last edited by Terry; 05-23-2008 at 11:30 PM.

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