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afmo · 05-23-2008, 07:27 AM

as unfortunate as it is...people ought to know better than to walk around with a gun exposed in this political climate.

Sure it may be legal, and you may be within your rights, but is it worth getting arrested, paying bail, going to court, finding a lawyer, and running the risk that your right to own firearms is taken away forever?

devildog12210 · 05-23-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Tengu

I haven't had that problem yet because Tennessee is not an open carry state.

I have had to arrest CCW license holders before... for doing stupid **** with their guns. Makes all of us CHL holders look bad.

You can open carry in TN. You get a TN Handgun Carry Permit. Not a concealed carry. You have the option to open carry or carry concealed, but you must have the permit to do either.

eyesopened · 05-23-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by afmo

as unfortunate as it is...people ought to know better than to walk around with a gun exposed in this political climate.

Sure it may be legal, and you may be within your rights, but is it worth getting arrested, paying bail, going to court, finding a lawyer, and running the risk that your right to own firearms is taken away forever?

Well if you want to exercise your rights, you have to be willing to fight for them.

Either that or shutup and not exercise your 1st amendment right in the chance you'll be held for making libel comments.

eyesopened · 05-23-2008, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by devildog12210

You can open carry in TN. You get a TN Handgun Carry Permit. Not a concealed carry. You have the option to open carry or carry concealed, but you must have the permit to do either.

Wow, so a "cop" doesn't know the laws? Wow, first I've heard (SARCASM ALERT). Don't get me wrong, I can't really blame them as "the book" is huge and changes all the time. But the difference is when a regular citizen makes a mistake, they go off to jail.

panther308 · 05-23-2008, 07:32 AM

You are better off carrying concealed, it just keeps things simpler

afmo · 05-23-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by eyesopened

Well if you want to exercise your rights, you have to be willing to fight for them.

Either that or shutup and not exercise your 1st amendment right in the chance you'll be held for making libel comments.

you're absolutely right. but the realist in me says 1) i have a CCW to avoid these problems and 2) i can't afford to be the test case, 3) i've got no desire to announce to the world that i'm carrying a gun.

the whole open carry thing always baffled me anyway. Whats the point other than to show everyone how tough guy you are?

devildog12210 · 05-23-2008, 07:41 AM

I would rather open carry than not carry at all.

Skeptic Monkey · 05-23-2008, 07:42 AM

I personally think that what I would term "social conscience" should be considered. Just because you "can" openly carry a weapon does not necessarily mean you "should".

Fighting for your rights is one thing but actually picking the fight is another. By all means defend your right to do whatever you want but to actively seek out means of testing those rights to me is sheer folly.

The gentleman that is the subject of this thread I don't feel actively went out of his way to test the law, he just didn't consider the social ramifications of his actions. Most of the general population have absolutely no idea what their gun laws are so instantly react with one of two actions... "cop" or "bad guy". If you don't look like a law enforcement officer or at least "official" in some capacity then you are instantly labeled a threat. It's just simple human nature (in my humble estimate.)

Had he just got a CCW then this situation could have been avoided for him and would have perhaps been the "socially conscience" thing to do as opposed to testing the general lack of knowledge of the common public.

Edit: And I realize he had applied but didn't have it yet.

eyesopened · 05-23-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by afmo

the whole open carry thing always baffled me anyway. Whats the point other than to show everyone how tough guy you are?

You know that's the same argument that the Anti-gun crowd makes about us carrying a gun concealed or not? funny huh?

Well in the case of the guy in Maine, he did not have a CC permit as he was in the process of getting one, but still wanted to protect himself.

Also, some states have it that you cannot get a CC permit until a certain age. In VA it is 21, but you can OC a handgun at 18.

There are other reasons, but this is not the thread for it as we're talking about the guy in ME, not why OC/CC is better. Check out OpenCarry.org

devildog12210 · 05-23-2008, 07:48 AM

Half of the LEO in my city don't know the law. I get stopped quit a bit by LEO who proceed to tell me the "law" on my carry permit. I keep a copy of the appropriate article in my wallet now just because of that. The most common response I get is "When did they change that?" I hate LEO that don't know the laws they are suppossed to uphold. But on that note I still respect their job and authority as I inform them of the handgun laws and I have never had a negative outcome.

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afmo XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,806	as unfortunate as it is...people ought to know better than to walk around with a gun exposed in this political climate. Sure it may be legal, and you may be within your rights, but is it worth getting arrested, paying bail, going to court, finding a lawyer, and running the risk that your right to own firearms is taken away forever? __________________ What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant

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panther308 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 509	You are better off carrying concealed, it just keeps things simpler __________________ panther308 Always Remember: A firearm is only an instrument. It contains no evil, no conscience, and no ability. It is strictly the intent, competence, and character of its user that decide the outcome of any and all actions taken with it.

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devildog12210 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Drummonds Posts: 675	I would rather open carry than not carry at all. __________________ XD-40 Service Ruger 10/22 Remington 870 supermag

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devildog12210 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Drummonds Posts: 675	Half of the LEO in my city don't know the law. I get stopped quit a bit by LEO who proceed to tell me the "law" on my carry permit. I keep a copy of the appropriate article in my wallet now just because of that. The most common response I get is "When did they change that?" I hate LEO that don't know the laws they are suppossed to uphold. But on that note I still respect their job and authority as I inform them of the handgun laws and I have never had a negative outcome. __________________ XD-40 Service Ruger 10/22 Remington 870 supermag

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05-23-2008, 07:42 AM	#18
Skeptic Monkey XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gulf Coast FL Posts: 62	I personally think that what I would term "social conscience" should be considered. Just because you "can" openly carry a weapon does not necessarily mean you "should". Fighting for your rights is one thing but actually picking the fight is another. By all means defend your right to do whatever you want but to actively seek out means of testing those rights to me is sheer folly. The gentleman that is the subject of this thread I don't feel actively went out of his way to test the law, he just didn't consider the social ramifications of his actions. Most of the general population have absolutely no idea what their gun laws are so instantly react with one of two actions... "cop" or "bad guy". If you don't look like a law enforcement officer or at least "official" in some capacity then you are instantly labeled a threat. It's just simple human nature (in my humble estimate.) Had he just got a CCW then this situation could have been avoided for him and would have perhaps been the "socially conscience" thing to do as opposed to testing the general lack of knowledge of the common public. Edit: And I realize he had applied but didn't have it yet.