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Firefighter701 · 05-22-2008, 12:00 PM

Are they worth the money??

dreydin · 05-22-2008, 12:05 PM

**yocan** · 05-22-2008, 12:08 PM

Yes. I remember reading a post on here almost a year ago about how a firearm instructor got owned by a CTC Junior employee (she didn't know he was one) because he could aquire targets faster.

The question is, if you have to choose between ammo and it then I dunno, but if you have the money go for it for a carry gun. It will decrease target aquisition time. I would think the big benefit would be if unable to form a proper stance and firing one handed (say your on the ground with the person on top of you/ multiple assailants knocked to the ground, having to fire left handed due to they have a grip on your right hand.

dreydin · 05-22-2008, 12:25 PM

oh crap, i guess theres a picture? i dont see anything but text bc of my work's firewall lol

propellerhead · 05-22-2008, 12:26 PM

Everyone with a laser dot sight that I've seen at the range have to keep wiggling their gun to get the dot on target. You're controlling the movement of a dot 7-10 yards away with wrist movement. It is common to overcompensate as you're used to moving your wrists by a certain amount to line up the sights. A dot far away tends to jump too far with the same movement. Often it takes less time to just aim with your iron sights.

Deadcenter · 05-22-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by propellerhead

Everyone with a laser dot sight that I've seen at the range have to keep wiggling their gun to get the dot on target. You're controlling the movement of a dot 7-10 yards away with wrist movement. It is common to overcompensate as you're used to moving your wrists by a certain amount to line up the sights. A dot far away tends to jump too far with the same movement. Often it takes less time to just aim with your iron sights.

I believe lasers are for quick target acquisition and for the psych out factor more than accuracy ... I could be wrong

**NewXDsupporter** · 05-22-2008, 02:02 PM

I love my CT on the XD. Only issues I have with it is that in broad day light you cant see it and I sighted it in at 7 yds so inside that its going to hit left and outside it will hit right. This is because the laser originates on the right side of the weapon and not from the center line.

But as prop said it could be more beneficial in some situations to use the irons. IMO lasers are just another tool to make your weapon work in diff situations they are not an end all.

**yocan** · 05-22-2008, 02:06 PM

IMO like the side rails on an AK47. You should measure the distance to the bore, and put the laser that far off always regardless, so its universal no matter the distance, it will be close enough for a kill, but far away the other manner could prove insufficient.

05-22-2008, 12:00 PM	#1
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05-22-2008, 12:08 PM	#3
yocan XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,283	Yes. I remember reading a post on here almost a year ago about how a firearm instructor got owned by a CTC Junior employee (she didn't know he was one) because he could aquire targets faster. The question is, if you have to choose between ammo and it then I dunno, but if you have the money go for it for a carry gun. It will decrease target aquisition time. I would think the big benefit would be if unable to form a proper stance and firing one handed (say your on the ground with the person on top of you/ multiple assailants knocked to the ground, having to fire left handed due to they have a grip on your right hand. __________________ The three requirements for a school shooting. 1 know the floorplan. 2 Know the threats inside the location and response time/entry time for the police 3. Royally screwed up intelligent analytic mind. We need more laws to protect these three rights. Ban guns in schools, it obviously works.

05-22-2008, 12:26 PM	#5
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,576	Everyone with a laser dot sight that I've seen at the range have to keep wiggling their gun to get the dot on target. You're controlling the movement of a dot 7-10 yards away with wrist movement. It is common to overcompensate as you're used to moving your wrists by a certain amount to line up the sights. A dot far away tends to jump too far with the same movement. Often it takes less time to just aim with your iron sights. __________________ XD-9 Tactical for IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three calibers, three models, three purposes. No compromises.

05-22-2008, 02:02 PM	#7
NewXDsupporter XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Marietta GA Posts: 359	I love my CT on the XD. Only issues I have with it is that in broad day light you cant see it and I sighted it in at 7 yds so inside that its going to hit left and outside it will hit right. This is because the laser originates on the right side of the weapon and not from the center line. But as prop said it could be more beneficial in some situations to use the irons. IMO lasers are just another tool to make your weapon work in diff situations they are not an end all. __________________ By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest. A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America," for an amount of "up to and including my life." WAR EAGLE

05-22-2008, 02:06 PM	#8
yocan XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,283	IMO like the side rails on an AK47. You should measure the distance to the bore, and put the laser that far off always regardless, so its universal no matter the distance, it will be close enough for a kill, but far away the other manner could prove insufficient. __________________ The three requirements for a school shooting. 1 know the floorplan. 2 Know the threats inside the location and response time/entry time for the police 3. Royally screwed up intelligent analytic mind. We need more laws to protect these three rights. Ban guns in schools, it obviously works.

05-22-2008, 12:05 PM	#2
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