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[Timmy44221]

One thing a PC users can do that Mac users can not (NSFW)

One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't...

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Originally Posted by Timmy44221

One thing a PC users can do that Mac users can not (NSFW)

One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't...

Maddox kicks @$$

[setabkcin]

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

Yes, Macs CAN get viruses. Saying that since no one writes anything for a Mac doesn't make them immune by any means. If someone felt that writing a Mac virus could benefit them, you'd see it, and it would be more then able to do it's job. In fact, it''d probably be even more devastating then on a windows machine since there's really no "plan of attack" for if a mac gets a virus. It would have to be cleaned manually.

I didn't say Macs couldn't get viruses I said:

Originally Posted by setabkcin

Also, Macs can't really get viruses either. The reason for this is that most viruses are programmed for Windows, which uses a different code than Macs. These viruses are programmed for Windows because the majority of the population uses it, this way it causes more damage.

By the way, Macs don't need software like Norton Anti-Virus or likewise. They come with all that pre-installed because, believe it or not, there are actually viruses written for Macs. However, when you first buy a Mac it'd be best to tweak the defaults to boost security.

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

I see macs crash when doing digital audio work, mainly. I see them crash just about as often as my PC's. And of course a Microsoft product is going to have troubles when run on a Mac OS....it was programmed for Windows. Unless the program was specifically designed to run on your operating sytem, there will certainly be troubles...ever run iTunes on Windows?

I was using Office Mac, the version programmed for Mac. It is programmed differently than the Windows version. Just like iTunes on a PC is coded differently than the Mac version.

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

And if you're Dell was crashing twice a day there is something seriously run with what you are doing. My current computer, a Toshiba laptop has been crash free since I bought it 6 months ago, and my custom build had a handful of crashes in the year it was around..mostly due to me doing something stupid with it.

My Dell had problems running Photoshop and Illustrator at the same time. It was always due to a RAM problem. A lot of this may be the fact that it is a Dell and not exactly superpowered.

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

Basically what I'm trying to say is the differences between a mac and pc are negligable. They will both enounter problems, and even then it's usually due to user error.

I completely agree with this.

Originally Posted by Joeywhat

Remember, buying an Intel Mac is JUST like buying any old PC now...only the operating system is different.

Buying an OLD PC? I think the difference in operating systems isn't an older/newer difference. It's more like the difference between a Glock and an XD. Both do their jobs well, the users have a preference.

Obviously Joeywhat and I have different views, but, I'm sure we both agree on this one thing: try before you buy.

[Feydakin]

Originally Posted by setabkcin

I didn't say Macs couldn't get viruses I said:


Quote:

Originally Posted by setabkcin
Also, Macs can't really get viruses either. The reason for this is that most viruses are programmed for Windows, which uses a different code than Macs. These viruses are programmed for Windows because the majority of the population uses it, this way it causes more damage.

Sorry, but your own quote starts off with "Also, Macs can't really get viruses either". You really should have said "Macs are less likely to get a virus." That would be more accurate and actually be supported by the rest of your paragraph. If Macs were as popular as windows then the majority of viruses would be written for them. Not trying to argue here, just saying please be more clear in your assertions.

[setabkcin]

Thank you for pointing that out. The whole time I thought I wrote "Macs DON'T really get viruses," which is what I meant, so sorry for that.

And, yes, if Macs were more popular than PC's they would have many more viruses programmed for them. I agree.

[Feydakin]

No problem man. I figured that is what was going on. I just didn't want to see a flame war started over a simple misunderstanding.

[PolsVoice]

Being a former member of Tech Support for various companies, I can tell you that Macs are sooooo much easier to talk people through. They may not have the near-infinite customizability of a PC, but they are simple, clean and tend to work consistently.

... Except for iTunes.

It was always interesting to me to watch the PC queue and the Mac queue in my various tech support jobs. The PC queue was back-to-back all day every day. The Mac queue often had HOURS between calls. I know that there are proportionally fewer Macs to Windows machines, but there were proportionally fewer techs, too.

... of course the Mac techies would always complain b/c the people who couldn't figure out how to work their mac were often REEEAALLY computer illiterate (or just plain dumb).

Get a mac. They're overpriced, but they work very very well and are shiny.

[PolsVoice]

Originally Posted by setabkcin

I'm curious, where are you when you see Macs crash everyday? How old are they?

I used to use macs from 1989-1997 and those Macs (OS 6 thru OS7.5.3) were horrible. Yet I've been VERY impressed with the OSX iterations. Plus, Leopard (OSX.5) is far more friendly with RAM than vista. It boggles my mind that Vista req. 1 GB of RAM just to run the OS well!!!! It's the sole reason why I still use XP.

Honestly, I'd switch to Mac in a heartbeat if they weren't so dang expensive. I just bought a Dell Vostro 1300 for $700. A comparable mac would've cost me over $1500.

[jblakk]

Originally Posted by setabkcin

I didn't say Macs couldn't get viruses I said:


My Dell had problems running Photo shop and Illustrator at the same time. It was always due to a RAM problem. A lot of this may be the fact that it is a Dell and not exactly super powered.

It depends on what you buy. This is the biggest problems with mac users. They like to compare there $2900 Power book to a $950 Toshiba, and claim dominance. I have a Dell XPS 1710. It was about 3 grand, and will do anything a mac can do (even run OSX thanks to the OSX86 project)
You might have just had a bad stick on ran in your machine, and that was the whole problem.

Originally Posted by setabkcin

Buying an OLD PC? I think the difference in operating systems isn't an older/newer difference. It's more like the difference between a Glock and an XD. Both do their jobs well, the users have a preference.

I like that comparison, cause Glock people and mac people have allot in common. They like to tell people how their product is far superior than everyone Else's.

At the end of the day. If you remove the user from the equation, and look at the computers, they are just that. Computers. They both have CPUs, memory, HDs, CD-R's, Etc. the only difference is the OS. And just like the Glock comparison...Use what you like, and don't push your preference on anyone else(that's not an accusation, just a statement about the common mac user). I have friends tell me all the time I should get a mac. I tell them I like to play games, and can do anything on my PC that I can do on a mac, but I need windows for programs for work. They tell me....but you can install windows on it!!!!........Then WHY would I get a mac?????




Sorry I got so distracted. But to the OP. Check you sound panel, and make sure none of the controls are set too low. While you can have your main volume at max, your "wave" can be set to 0 by a program, and it wont make any noise. To get to this, just double click your speaker icon in the system tray, or go to control panel/sounds. Under the volume tab, click advanced, and check your levels. If that fails, try reinstalling your sound card driver, as something might have corrupted the driver, like a HD glitch while writing data.

I hope this helps, and if you need any further clarification, feel free to PM me.

[KEVWYO]

Thanks to everyone for offering their advice on my problem and thoughts on Mac's.

I could easily play this off as if I was some computer guru (except that I am not since I had to ask for help!!! ) but the problem in the end was indeed a loose power cord. How it got that way can only be attributed to a poltergeist ... or one of three dogs who just possible lost a ball under the desk and might possibly have been trying to get it by pawing at it.

Thanks again!