Teachers having under-age sex with students...

[jcabin]

Well how about this Deb Lafave woman? http://www.nbc6.net/2006/0321/8169080_480X360.jpg
30 year old teacher (hot hot hot) has sex with teenage boys. Now, if I were in high school and some insanely hot 30 year old teacher wanted to have sex with me, i would have done everything in my power to make sure that mission was accomplished. Beyond that, I would have done EVERYTHING in my power to make sure she didnt get in trouble so I could continue having sex with her,,,
Now as men, seriously, i dont see anything wrong with this. It's every mans dream, to have a hot hot hot female in a position of power let you have your way with her.. Would you really report this to someone>?

That being said, I imagine, before I see everyones responses to what I said above, now comes the double standard.

As males, If we are older than statutory law allows, just because of that, do you really think you shouldnt be able to have sex with a female who is "under age"? What im going to say is the truth, and you damned well can't deny it unless there is something wrong with your primitive instincts.. If you see a fine 17 year old female, you know what you want to do.
Now that being said, if the female and you form a relationship through whatever casual means, and it comes to havinng sex do you really think you deserve jail time for it? Theres a difference between rape, and "statutory rape".

I find it funny how females get away with giving every teen age boy his dream come true, but if a guy has sex with an "under age" female he's jail bound.. Anyways, I'm not looking for a specific response, I just got home and was watching the news and it inspired me to make this post..
so respond at will, and please dont turn this into a personal hardcore mormon never seen a tit issue.

[robinsre]

As a society we have decided that there is a certain age at which people are qualified to make certain decisions (driving, owning a gun, joining the military, drinking, having sex, etc).

Until that point people should be (and are punished) for participating in poor decisions with what is essentially a child.

I see no problem with statutory rape laws, on either side.

[jcabin]

I had sex a week after my 16th birthday, with a 15 year old girl who was at the time my girlfriend. We were both virgins. Let me assure you, by the time we were 17 years old we were no children in the sense of sexuality. I know when i was 17 girls who blow women my current age out of the water. I think its different from person to person. Each person should be able to choose to do what they want to do, which is why as I said in my original post; theres a difference between rape, and statutory rape.

I know each person matures, and is ready for certain experiences, at different times than other people. This leads me agian to my original post, "there is a difference between rape, and statutory rape". If two people decide to have consentual sex, no matter the age, whats the problem? Again, theres a difference, the parties involved are having consentual sex(even though it might be considrered statutory rape), the older member of the party is not raping (forcable sexual intercourse) the younger member of the party, so whats the big deal? No, I dont agree with having sex with small children, but whats the harm in a grown adult having a sexual relationship with a 16 or 17 year old? Lets not be naive, i know being 22 im alot younger than most on this forum and from a different generation, but you know you were having sex at 16 too.

[robinsre]

Originally Posted by jcabin

I had sex a week after my 16th birthday, with a 15 year old girl who was at the time my girlfriend. We were both virgins. Let me assure you, by the time we were 17 years old we were no children in the sense of sexuality. I know when i was 17 girls who blow women my current age out of the water. I think its different from person to person. Each person should be able to choose to do what they want to do, which is why as I said in my original post; theres a difference between rape, and statutory rape.

I know each person matures, and is ready for certain experiences, at different times than other people. This leads me agian to my original post, "there is a difference between rape, and statutory rape". If two people decide to have consentual sex, no matter the age, whats the problem? Again, theres a difference, the parties involved are having consentual sex(even though it might be considrered statutory rape), the older member of the party is not raping (forcable sexual intercourse) the younger member of the party, so whats the big deal? No, I dont agree with having sex with small children, but whats the harm in a grown adult having a sexual relationship with a 16 or 17 year old? Lets not be naive, i know being 22 im alot younger than most on this forum and from a different generation, but you know you were having sex at 16 too.

The line HAS to be drawn somewhere.

Do you think a 14 year old is qualified to decide whether or not they should be having sex?

How about a 12 year old?

In the end the question is not whether the sex is consensual, it is whether or not you are qualified to give consent.

Until the age of 18 your parents are responsible for your welfare and upbringing, they are ultimately the guide of what activities you should and should not be partaking in, and as such THEY should be able to decide what activities you partake in with other adults.

Statutory rape is nothing more than willful violation of parental authority over that child. It should therefore be punishable accordingly.

[Formerly SAMTU]

This is just so wrong on so many levels...

Try this one...the woman is incredibly hot and 21 years old.

Does it matter if she's your sister?

Come on...we're supposed to be civilized, aren't we?

[I_Route]

Originally Posted by robinsre

The line HAS to be drawn somewhere.

Do you think a 14 year old is qualified to decide whether or not they should be having sex?

How about a 12 year old?

In the end the question is not whether the sex is consensual, it is whether or not you are qualified to give consent.

Until the age of 18 your parents are responsible for your welfare and upbringing, they are ultimately the guide of what activities you should and should not be partaking in, and as such THEY should be able to decide what activities you partake in with other adults.

Statutory rape is nothing more than willful violation of parental authority over that child. It should therefore be punishable accordingly.

Your comment started out a little nanny state-ish but you hit the nail on the head about the parents. He never said anything about 14 or 12 year olds. I know what you were trying to say but it came across different.

I 100% agree that parents need to start taking more of a role in their children's upbringing. My wife is a stay at home mom for our two kids until they both are in school full time. We just thought that it would be the best way. We did not want daycare [essentially strangers really], babysitters or television raising our kids. Sure it means sacrifice but in the end, the returns are more than worth it.

[nick19]

I don't think this is anything new. When I was in High School back in the 80's:
1.Male teacher had an affair with a female student and married her after she graduated from college. Nothing happend to him.
2.Female teacher had an affair with a female student. they were caught in a compromising position in her office and she was fired.
3.Male teacher had an affair with a female student and got her pregnant, he was fired.

[charlie.45]

man....ok let me see if i can get through this without cussing..what really ticks me off is guys wh are 19 20 21 and older messing around with girls 15 16 17 yrs old or younger. i have two daughters 4 and 6 and god em if i ever find out some punk ass kid whos in that 19&older catagory starts messn around with my daughters when they are teenagers. now in turn that means i as a father and their mother need to teach them not to do stuff like that. becouse even at the ages of 16 17 18 your still a kid you havnt grown up you havn't in most cases expierienced alot in life yet..why do you think 90% of those who get married their senior year ar right after high school fail..becouse they dont know ****..they think they know what it means to be in a relationship for the rest of their lives they think they are willing to give up all the partying all the stupid mistakes and all that it all sounds great in their head but their chasing a fairytail..i dont care who you are 99% of young adults 17-20 dont know what the hell their doing..no offense to anyone i've just seen it time and time again..its not until you get out and experience life up to your early twenties or just after that you begin to understand what the hell im saying..ok back to topic my point is these girls 15 16 17 younger have no idea what it means when they have sex they only want to make others happy (boyfriends whatever) they are nieve and even if they are the ones trying to come on to you as an older supposedly more responsible person at 19 20 21 whatever you are the one who's supposed to say no..the mere fact your sitting here trying to say its no big deal to have sex with an underage female is disgusting not becouse the law says so becouse its just morally wrong in so many ways their still f@@kin kids! what the hell happened to society i'm only 27 not that much older and this **** about it being cool to **** around with underage girls seems to be getting more and more acceptible to you guys in your early twenties or 18-19..what the hell happened in the moral structure...its f@@kin sick and god help the asshole who decides to put his hands on my daughters before their really old enough to make that decision for themselves..

[Tripledigitride]

Talk about HOT teachers--Here's one that got busted for having sex with a male student, just a few miles from where I live. There's even video (NOT FOR CHILDREN) she sent to the student. It can be found at pamelarogers.org

[yocan]

Ok so my first question is, are people naturally attracted to what they are around the most, whether its age for a partner, music, cars vs motorcycles, revolvers vs autoloaders, the list goes on.

My reason for the question is that high school teachers have the highest divorce rate in the US of any group, and that can reasonably be attributed to being constantly around the most pheremone secreting people that are in their sexual prime (if your looking at some 14 year old girls, that is as sexually provalent as they come, and some males hit and are done with puberty by 15 as well)

My dad who's a pastor was working with a guys wife, who married a student when she got out of college (HS teacher, he was 32,she 22 or so)

I also would have tried if I had ever had a hot teacher, heck I tried this year in college, granted she was a grad student, only 27 and I was 21 (and I look/act more like I'm 24)

I agree the law isn't realistic, but here's reality, according to the watchdog that was investigating planned parenthood, the most common illegal pairing was 13 and 22 years of age, and is a 13 year old girl physically ready to have sex? YES! Should she be having sex with a 22 year old without anyone knowing about the relationship that is responsible so that she isn't getting taken advantage of? NO!

In biblical times it was 15 and 20/21 which 13 to 15 is a huge difference in and of itself, but the parents where very involved, and made sure literally on a day to day basis for a few years that their daughter was not being abused. Also I theorise that the age for marriage is a % of your lifespan away from sexual maturity. IE when the life expectancy was 40, you get married at 16/17, roughly 5 years after the first signs of puberty or 20% in, now we live to 75, and we wait till 25, which is about the same thing.

Now I think that two fourteen year olds having sex being charged each is preposterous (technically it could happen) do I think if they are within a certain time frame of eachother it shouldn't be criminal? YES. IE at 13 (sick I know but this is about CRIMES not appropriate) if they are within 2 months not criminal, 14, 4 months, 15 7 months 16 1 year, 17 18 months 18, 2 years. Now notice I put a limit on 18 year olds too, because I feel the first year someone is released into the world they seem to be taken advantage of, so protect the freshman from old predators.

Maybe it should even be seperated into years in the public school system as well, a freshman and a freshman having sex, thats not predatory innately speaking, while a freshman and senior is simply wrong.

What they have right now is overly done, but better too strict than too open IMO. I just think this requires intelligent prosocuters with discernment to tell if they kids are on the same level, and if not to simply not press charges. That being said, more people in Illinois were released on DNA testing in 6 months than had been executed in 20 years. Weve all read about the HK employee who was charged for murder due to having a company test gun in the car and using it after being shot at to save his wife on full auto, just tried for using full auto with murder. I've seen DUI tickets written four hours after an accident (claimed hit in run pulling into a driveway, he got out, walked in, told the owner of the car he touched, and handed him a beer, both started drinking, neighbor called cops, one ticket later his life is hell, they pull him over once a week due to that) Had a cop try to give my neighbor a ticket for an illegal knife, due to it was serrated... the stories go on, what I'm saying in this paragraph is, maybe we can't trust in the prudence of our prosocuters, we need to be active in properly choosing a prosocuter, wow gets back to YOU HAVE TO VOTE AND BE POLITICALLY INVOLVED. My town thought ours was too harsh, so did the whole church, the church did not get involved, but all 7 pastors did, off the church grounds. He got replaced.