Virginia County Bans Rifles for Deer Hunting

[SAXD9SC]

In Fairfax and Arlington Counties (Northern VA outside DC) you can only go with a Bow be it cross, compound, or long. But you can hunt all year round with the proper permits. Been that way for quiet some time. Once the population gets to high it does become somewhat of a safety issue but a safety issue that does get over exaggerated by those who don't like hunting.

[chad_quixote]

if you want flat, go the the Texas Gulf Coast, the only hills we have are rice paddy dikes and overpasses....

maybe the sponsor is such a bad shot that he's trying to protect people from his poor skills....

[eric_t12]

Originally Posted by east_stingray

Won't Somebody Please Think Of The Children!!!!!

my sentiments exactly.

when your case involves the hypothetical threat to life, and your evidence, as it were, is holding up a piece of housing material and saying "this is what's between your kids and the bullet", i find it quite hard to belive there is any numerically overwhelming threat to anyone.





and i'm from south dakota. we're about as flat as you can get, around where i live.


and besides, if you shoot someone's house, you know, that's already illegal.

[yocan]

Originally Posted by SAXD9SC

In Fairfax and Arlington Counties (Northern VA outside DC) you can only go with a Bow be it cross, compound, or long. But you can hunt all year round with the proper permits. Been that way for quiet some time. Once the population gets to high it does become somewhat of a safety issue but a safety issue that does get over exaggerated by those who don't like hunting.

WRONG people that are too irresponsible to be given guns, try to ban them, just read what democrats say about if they had a gun. They think they are the top of the world the most mature, as good as it gets, they can't fathom that other people won't drink while carrying or won't go off at a drop of a hat and shoot someone. We don't do those things, we say guns are ok on principle, if they aren't responsible enough don't buy them, very simple whats the problem?

[samman23]

This is an example of having someone who does not hunt(does not know what he is talking about) make rules for how people should hunt.

The tree stand reasonably rules out the potential for the bullets to travel where they shouldn't. If people obey the tree stand rule, the chances of someone getting struck by a stray bullet is liken to someone getting struck by lightning.

Nevertheless, when you appoint people to make laws about about stuff they are not involved in, you are going to get bad laws. But nevertheless, they were voted in by the people whom they govern.

[Ride the Lightning]

Are they going to outlaw tree stands after 2 or 3 people get hurt falling from them? Or negligently discharging while climibing? Or because the tree doesn't like it?

[trik396]

Illinois law requires the use of shotgun with slugs during deer season. I don't really mind the law, as it's pretty flat land, however, there is no way in hell that a slug gun is useful past 100 yards. A slug doesn't have anywhere near the ballistic coefficient of a rifle bullet and drops like the proverbial rock quite quickly. Inside of 100yards the knockdown power is tremendous, though....
Honestly, I'm just happy that I'm "allowed" to hunt in this freakin' anti gunner wet dream of a state...

[Cannibul]

Originally Posted by eric_t12

my sentiments exactly.

when your case involves the hypothetical threat to life, and your evidence, as it were, is holding up a piece of housing material and saying "this is what's between your kids and the bullet", i find it quite hard to belive there is any numerically overwhelming threat to anyone.





and i'm from south dakota. we're about as flat as you can get, around where i live.


and besides, if you shoot someone's house, you know, that's already illegal.

But you are forgetting one basic point.

SD has 77,116 square miles with a population of under 800,000 people and is ranked 46th in population density.

Virginia has 42,774 square miles with a population of 7,078,515 and is ranked 14th in population density.

SD has 10 people per square mile
Virginia has 179 people per square mile

And you in a state like Virginia I highly doubt in a good portion of the state that you are ever more than a couple of miles from a road or a town. SD is full of nothing.

So now you know the numbers does that change your mind?

[eric_t12]

Originally Posted by Cannibul

But you are forgetting one basic point.

SD has 77,116 square miles with a population of under 800,000 people and is ranked 46th in population density.

Virginia has 42,774 square miles with a population of 7,078,515 and is ranked 14th in population density.

SD has 10 people per square mile
Virginia has 179 people per square mile

And you in a state like Virginia I highly doubt in a good portion of the state that you are ever more than a couple of miles from a road or a town. SD is full of nothing.

So now you know the numbers does that change your mind?

well! using that argument, you could say the gun ban in dc is necessary because they have 580,000 people in 68.3 Sq Mi, making it first in population density, now that you know the numbers - does that make you glad DC has a gun ban?



your arguments only limit the freedom of americans who choose to hunt. anything bad they can do with the firearm is ALREADY illegal. period.

SD is full of nothing

and if you knew about how many ignorant laws we have regarding hunting, and the carry of firearms in general, you'd understand why this doesn't make any sense to me either.

like this one...

32-20A-11. Restrictions on carrying of firearms--Violation as misdemeanor. No person other than a law enforcement officer or conservation officer may operate or ride in any snowmobile with any firearm in his possession unless the firearm is completely unloaded and within a carrying case which encloses the entire firearm. A violation of this section is a Class 2 misdemeanor.

ETA: no it doesn't change my mind. for the reasons stated in sentence 2 of this post.

[Cannibul]

I don't support the DC gun ban based on population density. But if they had a deer season I would suspect it would be limited to an archery season due to population density and safety.

And this law is NOT a gun ban. You are not banned from owning a rifle. You are however restricted from using it for hunting deer. There is a difference. If you want to buy an out of state license and hunt deer with your rifle in West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee or North Carolina you are free to do so. However if you want to hunt in Illinois you MUST use a shotgun with slugs. Have had to do so for a long time. Yet I don't see ANY of you bitching like some old woman about that. Why? Because the "old" restriction is good and the "new" restriction is bad?

An by the logic of some of the people on this thread I should be allowed to use my M40 recoilless rifle for deer hunting.

In my eyes you are either fools or hypocrites. Complain about ALL rifle restricted states and units or complain about none of them.

There was most likely two options. Ban all hunting or restrict the type of weapon used.

The majority of you who live in states who have fairly unrestricted hunting laws seem to have really have your panties in a bunch over this. The rest of us who have hunted or lived under these laws for over 50 years in some cases see no problem with it and actually understand it.

A rifle bullet can travel over two miles. In a state like Virginia it's really hard to know what is two miles away in every direction all the time.

This restriction is not a anti-gun law in any way shape or form. No more than a archery only season or unit is.