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**Edubya** · 04-08-2008, 05:36 AM

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

Drill instructor convicted after rifle jams

A drill instructor in the National Guard has been convicted in a Wisconsin federal court of illegally transferring a machine gun after a rifle he loaned to a student malfunctioned, setting off three shots before jamming.
The verdict of guilty on one count in the case against David Olofson was confirmed yesterday by the clerk's office in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin.
That means now that anyone whose weapon malfunctions is subject to charges of having or handling a banned gun, according to an expert witness who reports that the particular problem is a well-known malfunction and was even the subject of a recall from the manufacturer.

"Are you saying if I take my Great Granddaddy's double barrel out and I pull one trigger and both barrels go off, it's a machinegun?' He went back to … 'any weapon that shoots…"

rockerz71 · 04-08-2008, 05:58 AM

unbelievable

Fish609 · 04-08-2008, 05:59 AM

I really hope this gets undone.

"In theory if" I had an AK where they sheppard hook broke and it went full auto on me. Do I deserve a 250k fine or 10 years in prison??? (or whatever they think is fair).

apierce918 · 04-08-2008, 06:23 AM

i saw this on another forum, stupid is the only way to describe it.

Modificationvt · 04-08-2008, 07:37 AM

I've read this before, but I think its good its here, we all need to be aware of this.

The first gun I ever bought was an FEG 380, and I have found out after reading about the gun that the metal the de-cock guard is made out of isn't that great and after too many de-cocks it can fail and send the pistol into full auto. after reading that and reading about this case I have been VERY careful to make sure that I thumb the hammer down when I de cock instead of just letting it fall.

ForTehNguyen · 04-08-2008, 09:29 AM

wisconsin is in the same failboat as illinois and cali

jundy314 · 04-08-2008, 09:34 AM

that was real un called for, guns jam all the time, couldnt they just exam the gun to see it wasnt a fully automatic

Wu Wei · 04-08-2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jundy314

that was real un called for, guns jam all the time, couldnt they just exam the gun to see it wasnt a fully automatic

They could, but why miss the opportunity to attack a gun-owner?

This is an example why I feel justified in saying the State can kiss my freedom-loving a$$! As soon as we can sell our house and move away we plan to do so.

Palmguy · 04-08-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wu Wei

They could, but why miss the opportunity to attack a gun-owner?

This is an example why I feel justified in saying the State can kiss my freedom-loving a$$! As soon as we can sell our house and move away we plan to do so.

I'm not much for taking the side of the ATF, well, ever...but there is a lot more to this story than is being discussed, and the weapon was examined by the ATF (although there is a lot to that story as well).

If I was Olofson, I wouldn't have loaned out a weapon to someone that I knew had the potential to malfunction in such a manner (and in an AR with a third selector position at that).

**XDONBOARD** · 04-08-2008, 03:32 PM

Thats bullsh!t.

04-08-2008, 05:36 AM	#1
Edubya XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NC Posts: 611	Is your gun an automatic? Ever had a malfunction? Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com Drill instructor convicted after rifle jams A drill instructor in the National Guard has been convicted in a Wisconsin federal court of illegally transferring a machine gun after a rifle he loaned to a student malfunctioned, setting off three shots before jamming. The verdict of guilty on one count in the case against David Olofson was confirmed yesterday by the clerk's office in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin. That means now that anyone whose weapon malfunctions is subject to charges of having or handling a banned gun, according to an expert witness who reports that the particular problem is a well-known malfunction and was even the subject of a recall from the manufacturer. "Are you saying if I take my Great Granddaddy's double barrel out and I pull one trigger and both barrels go off, it's a machinegun?' He went back to … 'any weapon that shoots…" __________________ EW® *I ain't the expert, but I've made a lot of the wrong decisions!* If Homicide Is Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Commit Homicide

04-08-2008, 05:59 AM	#3
Fish609 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 1,221	I really hope this gets undone. "In theory if" I had an AK where they sheppard hook broke and it went full auto on me. Do I deserve a 250k fine or 10 years in prison??? (or whatever they think is fair). Last edited by Fish609; 04-08-2008 at 07:48 AM. Reason: Edited so I am not a felon

04-08-2008, 09:29 AM	#6
ForTehNguyen XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,873	wisconsin is in the same failboat as illinois and cali __________________ XD9 Service Black XD9 Subcompact x 2 Kimber Tactical Custom II AR15 16" Midlength AR15 16" Carbine Tacticooled Lancaster AK47 Remington 870 12ga Express

04-08-2008, 09:34 AM	#7
jundy314 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5	that was real un called for, guns jam all the time, couldnt they just exam the gun to see it wasnt a fully automatic __________________ Kimber Pro BP TenII Xd9 Sub-Compact

04-08-2008, 03:32 PM	#10
XDONBOARD XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Valley of the Cards Posts: 3,724	Thats bullsh!t. __________________ Michael XD-45 compact XD-40 sub-compact XD-9 sub-compact I'd rather have my XD and not need it, then need it and not have it.... I hereby certify that the person described hereon has been granted the privilege of carrying a concealed weapon in compliance with Arizona revised statute 13-3112.

04-08-2008, 05:58 AM	#2
rockerz71 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 3,510	unbelievable

04-08-2008, 06:23 AM	#4
apierce918 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mid Michigan Posts: 240	i saw this on another forum, stupid is the only way to describe it.

04-08-2008, 07:37 AM	#5
Modificationvt XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington Vermont Posts: 1,109	I've read this before, but I think its good its here, we all need to be aware of this. The first gun I ever bought was an FEG 380, and I have found out after reading about the gun that the metal the de-cock guard is made out of isn't that great and after too many de-cocks it can fail and send the pistol into full auto. after reading that and reading about this case I have been VERY careful to make sure that I thumb the hammer down when I de cock instead of just letting it fall.

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