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chrome · 06-30-2005, 08:44 PM

Well here it is,

I bought an XD9sc from a private seller back in the beginning of the month. I knew right away i wanted it refinished. So I instructed the seller that I wanted it sent it to a popular refinishing company. He wanted a copy of an FFL to send it to the company, even though it wasn't needed by law.

So this company, over the phone, told my seller that they sent an FFL to him. Roger, no problem.

3 weeks later, there is no FFL. My seller tells me that he called them again, and the secretary forgot to send it out. So it now arrives to him, the pistol was shipped yesterday and it is now arrived at the company. The company now tells me they will not be able to get the pistol refinished until the beginning of august. I leaving for out of town to Arizona to teach for July 15 for the rest of the summer.

So I tell the company that I do not want his business and to send the pistol to me immediately after they receive a copy of my FFL.

In an email tonight, I was informed that they sent the FFL over 2 weeks ago as a 'favor' to me.

So while I have no gun (that is paid for already), they are fingerpointing and I really do not have any reason to believe the company since the seller within 2 days of purchasing the package sent me the holster, mags priority email in pristine condition.

So now, I truly do refuse to give my money to this business, and I have to pay twice the amount of shipping to get it back to me.

Pretty darn frustrating..
What would you guys do?

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UPDATE: 12 July

Well, it finally arrived at my FFL to my surprise. I told the company to put the recepit inside the box and I would reimburse them for shipping, simple.
Well, I got to my FFl and tell them that my pistol was coming via USPS. Luckily, the amount of guns I have had transfered there they recognized my name at the post office, because the basterds put the pistol as a COD!
Can you believe that? No notification or information sent to me or my FFL that this pistol was going to be COD (cash on delivery). If my FFL didn't know me personally, the pistol would have been shipped back to the company and I would have been screwed (and out of my state by the time it was ready to get back)

I can't believe this, REALLY REALLY BOTHERED THE PISS out of me. And i really want to say the name of this company...
but bad form holds me back..

**einheit 13** · 06-30-2005, 10:33 PM

I'd ask them why they want double the normal shipping. And when requesting the refinish, why did they not give you a time table BEFORE you agreed to send it (unless they did?). If it were me I would threaten them with legal action since they are only out postage for a stamp if they mailed an FFL.( Or pay for it with a credit card and do a reverse charge for half the amount after you recieve it

. Contact the BBB and the ATF on this if they continue to give you flak, you can declair it stolen since they have not rendered any service to you, and refuse to release YOUR property ( unless it is a written policy that they can provide upon request). Keep all emails/letters between you two for use if needed. What company is this, you do have the right to give them bad press too!!

astral · 07-01-2005, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by einheit 13

What company is this, you do have the right to give them bad press too!!

agreed

chrome · 07-01-2005, 07:48 AM

I think you misunderstood when I said I had to pay double the shipping. What I meant was when I bought the gun the price included shipping, and it was sent to the company directly. Now, I have to pay shipping AGAIN to get it home to me, in the unwanted condition.

I will not mention names though, no need.

DigMe · 07-01-2005, 10:55 AM

This isn't Bearcoat is it?

brad cook

SLCDave · 07-01-2005, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigMe

This isn't Bearcoat is it?

brad cook

If it was bearcoat, they would send him the slide, and tell him the barrel wasn't in the original shipment, therefore, not their responsibility.

chrome · 07-01-2005, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigMe

This isn't Bearcoat is it?

brad cook

Never heard of bearcoat

DigMe · 07-01-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrome

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigMe

This isn't Bearcoat is it?

brad cook

Never heard of bearcoat

OOOhh...you've nver heard of bearcoat?! EVERYONE should hear about Bearcoat!

Also known as Rocky Mountain Arms. They did a real disservice and were very unprofessional to an incredible extreme to a fellow shooter:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=86336

It's a long thread but gets real interesting.

brad cook

**einheit 13** · 07-01-2005, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrome

I think you misunderstood when I said I had to pay double the shipping. What I meant was when I bought the gun the price included shipping, and it was sent to the company directly. Now, I have to pay shipping AGAIN to get it home to me, in the unwanted condition.

I will not mention names though, no need.

Oh, not to be mean, but why should they send it for free?? Seems like a "grand scheme" you had back fired and your gonna be out what, $25 extra??Sounds like you're whinning to me.

chrome · 07-01-2005, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by einheit 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrome

I think you misunderstood when I said I had to pay double the shipping. What I meant was when I bought the gun the price included shipping, and it was sent to the company directly. Now, I have to pay shipping AGAIN to get it home to me, in the unwanted condition.

I will not mention names though, no need.

Oh, not to be mean, but why should they send it for free?? Seems like a "grand scheme" you had back fired and your gonna be out what, $25 extra??Sounds like you're whinning to me.

$25 is $25. Simple as that. They will not ship it USPS, per my request. It is a FFL to FFL, and you are allowed to ship handguns ground through that medium.

06-30-2005, 08:44 PM	#1
chrome XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 806	Fiikity Fack Fack FK!!@# - Update, July 12 -** Well here it is, I bought an XD9sc from a private seller back in the beginning of the month. I knew right away i wanted it refinished. So I instructed the seller that I wanted it sent it to a popular refinishing company. He wanted a copy of an FFL to send it to the company, even though it wasn't needed by law. So this company, over the phone, told my seller that they sent an FFL to him. Roger, no problem. 3 weeks later, there is no FFL. My seller tells me that he called them again, and the secretary forgot to send it out. So it now arrives to him, the pistol was shipped yesterday and it is now arrived at the company. The company now tells me they will not be able to get the pistol refinished until the beginning of august. I leaving for out of town to Arizona to teach for July 15 for the rest of the summer. So I tell the company that I do not want his business and to send the pistol to me immediately after they receive a copy of my FFL. In an email tonight, I was informed that they sent the FFL over 2 weeks ago as a 'favor' to me. So while I have no gun (that is paid for already), they are fingerpointing and I really do not have any reason to believe the company since the seller within 2 days of purchasing the package sent me the holster, mags priority email in pristine condition. So now, I truly do refuse to give my money to this business, and I have to pay twice the amount of shipping to get it back to me. Pretty darn frustrating.. What would you guys do? --------------------------------- UPDATE: 12 July Well, it finally arrived at my FFL to my surprise. I told the company to put the recepit inside the box and I would reimburse them for shipping, simple. Well, I got to my FFl and tell them that my pistol was coming via USPS. Luckily, the amount of guns I have had transfered there they recognized my name at the post office, because the basterds put the pistol as a COD! Can you believe that? No notification or information sent to me or my FFL that this pistol was going to be COD (cash on delivery). If my FFL didn't know me personally, the pistol would have been shipped back to the company and I would have been screwed (and out of my state by the time it was ready to get back) I can't believe this, REALLY REALLY BOTHERED THE PISS out of me. And i really want to say the name of this company... but bad form holds me back.. __________________ XD40 Service Custom J&T AR-15 M4rgery Custom \'recondoc\' Ruger 22/45 Remington Vang Comp 870police Ed Brown Kobra Carry AR15 SPR YoBo 1*/Tripp Red Dragon SP101 Ray Harms Colt OACP Bulgarian AK47 Ted Yost High Power

06-30-2005, 10:33 PM	#2
einheit 13 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia, C.S.A. Posts: 5,841	I'd ask them why they want double the normal shipping. And when requesting the refinish, why did they not give you a time table BEFORE you agreed to send it (unless they did?). If it were me I would threaten them with legal action since they are only out postage for a stamp if they mailed an FFL.( Or pay for it with a credit card and do a reverse charge for half the amount after you recieve it . Contact the BBB and the ATF on this if they continue to give you flak, you can declair it stolen since they have not rendered any service to you, and refuse to release YOUR property ( unless it is a written policy that they can provide upon request). Keep all emails/letters between you two for use if needed. What company is this, you do have the right to give them bad press too!! __________________ Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action “It is the lack of will power, and not the lack of arms which render us incapable of offering any serious resistance.”

07-01-2005, 07:48 AM	#4
chrome XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 806	I think you misunderstood when I said I had to pay double the shipping. What I meant was when I bought the gun the price included shipping, and it was sent to the company directly. Now, I have to pay shipping AGAIN to get it home to me, in the unwanted condition. I will not mention names though, no need. __________________ XD40 Service Custom J&T AR-15 M4rgery Custom \'recondoc\' Ruger 22/45 Remington Vang Comp 870police Ed Brown Kobra Carry AR15 SPR YoBo 1*/Tripp Red Dragon SP101 Ray Harms Colt OACP Bulgarian AK47 Ted Yost High Power

07-01-2005, 10:55 AM	#5
DigMe XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 1,540	This isn't Bearcoat is it? brad cook __________________ This space for rent. .jpgs and .gifs need not apply.

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