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**SVThuh** · 03-30-2008, 02:37 PM

I got this from the USCCA newsletter and it got me thinking. What would you do in the situation below??

Scenario:

You are in your typical CCW posture and getting gas at a well-lit service station in a pretty good neighborhood in your town/city. While filling up, you notice a man 30 yards away approaching you with "a crazed look in his eyes" and his eyes are locked on you.

Physically he is taller, more muscled and quite a bit younger than you...at 10 yards you notice his hands are balled into fists and he adopts a very aggressive posture while walking towards you. You do not see a weapon.

You initiate verbal commands and blade yourself/weapon while moving off the x at an oblique angle to his direction of travel. he does not respond to your commands and changes directions to intercept you.

What next...?

charlie.45 · 03-30-2008, 02:59 PM

many might feel differently but I would take the first strike in this situation I.E. I would hit him first. If its well lit the security camera assuming they have a working one which most do will capture the event I would argue that given the mans posture and unmistakable attempt to intercept me when I tried to get away that a threat was immenent ie he was going to strike me. I would not draw or fire for a fear of gas fumes igniting.If verbal commands to stay away or whatever fail I would strike him first however I thought I could end the situation as fast as possible. just my take on it.

**Jameson** · 03-30-2008, 03:04 PM

If they looked like they were going to attack me, I would verbally warn them and if they didn't respond I would draw my weapon and tell them to back off.

akhimark · 03-30-2008, 03:05 PM

Keep the car between me and him and make enuf noise to get a lot of witnesses. I would not try to strike him with anything but a 180 gr JHP from my 40sc if he gets around to the same side of the car as me. Rmember, in this hypothetical, he is bigger than me and possibly on some kind of drug.

m9fan · 03-30-2008, 03:12 PM

Run Forest, run!

**Dotagious** · 03-30-2008, 03:13 PM

I would get in my car and drive away

m9fan · 03-30-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dotagious

I would get in my car and drive away

Now that's using the ol' noggin'!

cjive134 · 03-30-2008, 03:20 PM

squirt gas at him and throw the lit cigarette hanging from your mouth?

**Dotagious** · 03-30-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjive134

squirt gas at him and throw the lit cigarette hanging from your mouth?

lol

cjive134 · 03-30-2008, 03:23 PM

seriously though, if you are moving away and trying to diffuse the situation you are within your rights to shoot. This is not someone that I would want to test my fighting skills against.

03-30-2008, 02:37 PM	#1
SVThuh XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,042	OK, what to do? (CCW Question) I got this from the USCCA newsletter and it got me thinking. What would you do in the situation below?? Scenario: You are in your typical CCW posture and getting gas at a well-lit service station in a pretty good neighborhood in your town/city. While filling up, you notice a man 30 yards away approaching you with "a crazed look in his eyes" and his eyes are locked on you. Physically he is taller, more muscled and quite a bit younger than you...at 10 yards you notice his hands are balled into fists and he adopts a very aggressive posture while walking towards you. You do not see a weapon. You initiate verbal commands and blade yourself/weapon while moving off the x at an oblique angle to his direction of travel. he does not respond to your commands and changes directions to intercept you. What next...?

03-30-2008, 02:59 PM	#2
charlie.45 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maumee,OH Posts: 1,090	many might feel differently but I would take the first strike in this situation I.E. I would hit him first. If its well lit the security camera assuming they have a working one which most do will capture the event I would argue that given the mans posture and unmistakable attempt to intercept me when I tried to get away that a threat was immenent ie he was going to strike me. I would not draw or fire for a fear of gas fumes igniting.If verbal commands to stay away or whatever fail I would strike him first however I thought I could end the situation as fast as possible. just my take on it. __________________ Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! Patrick Henry

03-30-2008, 03:04 PM	#3
Jameson XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fallbrook, CA Posts: 167	If they looked like they were going to attack me, I would verbally warn them and if they didn't respond I would draw my weapon and tell them to back off. Last edited by Jameson; 03-30-2008 at 03:38 PM.

03-30-2008, 03:12 PM	#5
m9fan XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 879	Run Forest, run! __________________ "Upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all." - Alexander the Great Texas CHL US Army Veteran '86 - '94 Beretta M9 Bushmaster M4A2 Clone Glock 22 Rossi 351 Snubbie SA XD 45ACP Service Winchester Defender 1300

03-30-2008, 03:20 PM	#8
cjive134 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 1,525	squirt gas at him and throw the lit cigarette hanging from your mouth? __________________ "Don't laugh at me. I was once like you." - homer simpson

03-30-2008, 03:05 PM	#4
akhimark XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: York, SC Posts: 448	Keep the car between me and him and make enuf noise to get a lot of witnesses. I would not try to strike him with anything but a 180 gr JHP from my 40sc if he gets around to the same side of the car as me. Rmember, in this hypothetical, he is bigger than me and possibly on some kind of drug.

03-30-2008, 03:13 PM	#6
Dotagious XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SW Florida Posts: 735	I would get in my car and drive away

03-30-2008, 03:23 PM	#10
cjive134 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 1,525	seriously though, if you are moving away and trying to diffuse the situation you are within your rights to shoot. This is not someone that I would want to test my fighting skills against. __________________ "Don't laugh at me. I was once like you." - homer simpson

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