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BMC6765 · 03-30-2008, 04:30 PM

Try to move away from the gas fumes before you fire, might get a bigger bang than expected!!!

Tripledigitride · 03-30-2008, 04:30 PM

I would do just as I see the police do on COPS-- With gun drawn, I would scream "STOP RIGHT THERE....DON'T MOVE.....TURN AROUND AND LOCK YOUR FINGERS ON THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD....GET ON YOU KNEES......GET ON YOUR STOMACH.

If that doesn't work, I'd scream like a woman in fear until he forced me to shoot him in the head.

But really, can the average person really know what they would do in such a situation. It's one thing to come up with a plan while sitting behind a keyboard with all the time in the world, but when your in a situation, with just a matter of a very few stressful seconds, the whole situation will likely change. In my opinion, unless you've been through some serious training, you likely have very little idea as to how you'd deal with such a scenario until it actually happens.

Hubs · 03-30-2008, 05:43 PM

I would put my car between me and him, while rotating towards the store entrance. Firing is not an option due to the explosive nature of the event.

**einheit 13** · 03-30-2008, 06:03 PM

Hit the 'emergency shut off' button at the pump and ask yell for the attendant to call the cops when they cut on the intercom or come out the door. In the mean time, keep something between me and him-unless my family is in the car- I'd be on the news at 11 then...

danp · 03-30-2008, 06:52 PM

Assuming I'm alone, I'd drop the pump handle, get in the car and drive away. If that is not possible and the assault continues then;

1. Issue loud verbal commands. If no compliance then:

2. Try less-lethal. I carry OC. If no compliance then:

3. Draw firearm and begin issuing "Stop or I'll shoot" commands. If circling the vehicle, keep doing so until he complies, loses interest and goes away or comes over the top of the car. If he starts up onto the car, back directly away. He has now committed himself to assaulting me so:

4. Utilize lethal force. Start shooting center mass and work my way up to the cranio-ocular cavity.

If at any time, I have the opportunity to dial 911 from my cell phone, I would do so. I am also not too worried about gunfire igniting the gas fumes. That is more movie than reality.

**rufusdog** · 03-30-2008, 06:59 PM

Like some of the others if all else failed I would shoot him. (often)

profesor · 03-30-2008, 07:03 PM

I think it depends on how threatened I felt and if I had a way to avoid the conflict. If I felt really threatened and had no means to avoid the conflict... out with the xd40 sc and pow, pow!!!

afmo · 03-30-2008, 07:35 PM

remember the litmus test...would a 'reasonable' person have a reasonable fear of their life or person safety? just because he's got balled fists and walking in your direction does not mean you are at risk for great bodily injury or death. The duty here is to not escalate the situation. What if he's just in an angry mood? what if he's walking past you to go pay for his gas and is mad at the price? this definitely isn't a "shoot first ask questions later" scenario. any number of things could be happening that you know nothing about...if you believe he may be coming at you, retreat until that option is not open to you.

**Prezents** · 03-30-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripledigitride

I would do just as I see the police do on COPS-- With gun drawn, I would scream "STOP RIGHT THERE....DON'T MOVE.....TURN AROUND AND LOCK YOUR FINGERS ON THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD....GET ON YOU KNEES......GET ON YOUR STOMACH.

If that doesn't work, I'd scream like a woman in fear until he forced me to shoot him in the head.

But really, can the average person really know what they would do in such a situation. It's one thing to come up with a plan while sitting behind a keyboard with all the time in the world, but when your in a situation, with just a matter of a very few stressful seconds, the whole situation will likely change. In my opinion, unless you've been through some serious training, you likely have very little idea as to how you'd deal with such a scenario until it actually happens.

+1

Reno82 · 03-30-2008, 08:35 PM

First good thing... you saw him. Make a plan. No weapon, No threat yet.... get in my car and lock the doors... drive away if he attacks. If you did not see him... and he attacks you out of no where... I'm in fear of my life... draw and stop the threat.

03-30-2008, 04:30 PM	#11
BMC6765 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 194	Try to move away from the gas fumes before you fire, might get a bigger bang than expected!!! __________________ “People will continue to kill each other for the rest of humanity's life. As long as there are humans on this planet we will kill each other. There is nothing you can do to prevent it. Taking away our ability to defend ourselves is simply going to make us ALL targets”. Quote from, The Knite Of Light

03-30-2008, 04:30 PM	#12
Tripledigitride XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hendersonville (Nashville) Tennessee Posts: 725	I would do just as I see the police do on COPS-- With gun drawn, I would scream "STOP RIGHT THERE....DON'T MOVE.....TURN AROUND AND LOCK YOUR FINGERS ON THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD....GET ON YOU KNEES......GET ON YOUR STOMACH. If that doesn't work, I'd scream like a woman in fear until he forced me to shoot him in the head. But really, can the average person really know what they would do in such a situation. It's one thing to come up with a plan while sitting behind a keyboard with all the time in the world, but when your in a situation, with just a matter of a very few stressful seconds, the whole situation will likely change. In my opinion, unless you've been through some serious training, you likely have very little idea as to how you'd deal with such a scenario until it actually happens. Last edited by Tripledigitride; 03-30-2008 at 04:37 PM.

03-30-2008, 05:43 PM	#13
Hubs XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Johns Island, SC Posts: 101	I would put my car between me and him, while rotating towards the store entrance. Firing is not an option due to the explosive nature of the event. __________________ XD-45 1948 Winchester Model 24 16g Mossberg .410g

03-30-2008, 06:03 PM	#14
einheit 13 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia, C.S.A. Posts: 5,841	Hit the 'emergency shut off' button at the pump and ask yell for the attendant to call the cops when they cut on the intercom or come out the door. In the mean time, keep something between me and him-unless my family is in the car- I'd be on the news at 11 then... __________________ Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action “It is the lack of will power, and not the lack of arms which render us incapable of offering any serious resistance.”

03-30-2008, 06:52 PM	#15
danp XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 1,414	Assuming I'm alone, I'd drop the pump handle, get in the car and drive away. If that is not possible and the assault continues then; 1. Issue loud verbal commands. If no compliance then: 2. Try less-lethal. I carry OC. If no compliance then: 3. Draw firearm and begin issuing "Stop or I'll shoot" commands. If circling the vehicle, keep doing so until he complies, loses interest and goes away or comes over the top of the car. If he starts up onto the car, back directly away. He has now committed himself to assaulting me so: 4. Utilize lethal force. Start shooting center mass and work my way up to the cranio-ocular cavity. If at any time, I have the opportunity to dial 911 from my cell phone, I would do so. I am also not too worried about gunfire igniting the gas fumes. That is more movie than reality. __________________ God made cops so that firefighters could have heros too. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzche

03-30-2008, 06:59 PM	#16
rufusdog XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 995	Like some of the others if all else failed I would shoot him. (often)

03-30-2008, 07:03 PM	#17
profesor XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,149	I think it depends on how threatened I felt and if I had a way to avoid the conflict. If I felt really threatened and had no means to avoid the conflict... out with the xd40 sc and pow, pow!!! __________________ Red Rider BB Gun... where it all begins!

03-30-2008, 07:35 PM	#18
afmo XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 3,607	remember the litmus test...would a 'reasonable' person have a reasonable fear of their life or person safety? just because he's got balled fists and walking in your direction does not mean you are at risk for great bodily injury or death. The duty here is to not escalate the situation. What if he's just in an angry mood? what if he's walking past you to go pay for his gas and is mad at the price? this definitely isn't a "shoot first ask questions later" scenario. any number of things could be happening that you know nothing about...if you believe he may be coming at you, retreat until that option is not open to you. __________________ I survived 8 years of vitriolic hate directed towards George W. Bush. The shoe is on the other foot now: Barack Obama is NOT MY PRESIDENT. Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant

03-30-2008, 08:35 PM	#20
Reno82 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,332	First good thing... you saw him. Make a plan. No weapon, No threat yet.... get in my car and lock the doors... drive away if he attacks. If you did not see him... and he attacks you out of no where... I'm in fear of my life... draw and stop the threat. __________________ XD-45acp Service (Match Gun I changed it to a compact for CCW... did a grip chop on it) Ruger Mark III 22/45 Kimber SS Custom Target II 10mm Walther G22 (FUN GUN) XD-45acp Tactical (Match Gun II; upgraded the bbl from PistolGear) XD-9 Sub-Compact (Home Defense and CCW) DPMS AR-15: 9mm (1/17/08...) RRA CAR A4 Upper 223/5.56---did a lower bulid 6/3/08 and bought completed upper 2/21/08 S&W 642 38 special w/ CT grips (HD& CCW) Upper ALEX ARMS 19.5" 6.5 GRENDEL-order 9/9/08 Last edited by Reno82; 03-30-2008 at 09:38 PM.

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