I'm not sure how to even title this (Warning, cruelty to an animal)

[redhatchbox]

Originally Posted by yocan

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No problem killing dogs, I'm sure I'll do it when I'm there,

Before you do it... throw yourself off a cliff first, see how YOU like it.

[gsh341]

Originally Posted by redhatchbox

You're trying to make it sound like it's OK to do this? No. Who cares if other people do it?!

You need a head check too!

That Marine seems to be on the same tracks as Jeffery Dahmer. Oh no, wait.. He'll eventually end up on our streets as a LEO instead. GREAT.

What I'm trying to convey is that our western ideas seem pretty bizarre, cruel, outrageous and obscene to people in other parts of the world. While we as westerners feel repulsed by the act of killing a puppy, many cultures see dogs and cats as vermin to be eradicated.

You need to look outside of your comfort zone every now and then and ask "Why does this disturb me?" rather than say that it's sick and disgusting and expect that your reaction is automatically the proper one.

This video takes most people from western cultures outside their comfort zone, yet this video was doubtlessly watched several times by many of them.

Why?

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by redhatchbox

You're trying to make it sound like it's OK to do this? No. Who cares if other people do it?!

You need a head check too!

That Marine seems to be on the same tracks as Jeffery Dohmer. Oh no, wait.. He'll eventually end up on our streets as a LEO instead. GREAT.

Morality isn’t bound by nationality or borders. Neither is pain, I have a wild hunch he placed a blatant trap and being short sighted and emotional you fell for it hook line and sinker (like the torturous fishing cliché).

Who cares if other people do it? To answer your question you do. Apparently as long as little brown people in third world countries do it, YOU don’t care.

Now if white men do it in a third world country (Iraq or Afghanistan) it becomes more savage?

Is it the whiteness of the soldiers or the fact they are Americans, those are your only two choices.... which (or both) do you hate?

I personally love dogs and would have a hard time shooting any dog that wasn’t biting me, or needed to be put out of its misery, or attacking some helpless person etc. I don’t like seeing animals in pain, otherwise I would have been a vet, and I love all critters. Your being terrible blind though.

Hey why we are at it what do you think of PETA? do you think that is a good organization for animal rights?

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by gsh341

What I'm trying to convey is that our western ideas seem pretty bizarre, cruel, outrageous and obscene to people in other parts of the world. While we as westerners feel repulsed by the act of killing a puppy, many cultures see dogs and cats as vermin to be eradicated.

You need to look outside of your comfort zone every now and then and ask "Why does this disturb me?" rather than say that it's sick and disgusting and expect that your reaction is automatically the proper one.

This video takes most people from western cultures outside their comfort zone, yet this video was doubtlessly watched several times by many of them.

Why?

More important why is it only disturbing when American soldiers do it, but not Chinese villagers killing raccoon dogs for their fur to sell to make cloths. NOT TO EAT. Killing by punching them into the ground flinging by tail, and skinning them while they are still alive. Is that ok cause they aren’t white soldiers ?

[jtkratzer]

Originally Posted by gsh341

What I'm trying to convey is that our western ideas seem pretty bizarre, cruel, outrageous and obscene to people in other parts of the world. While we as westerners feel repulsed by the act of killing a puppy, many cultures see dogs and cats as vermin to be eradicated.

You need to look outside of your comfort zone every now and then and ask "Why does this disturb me?" rather than say that it's sick and disgusting and expect that your reaction is automatically the proper one.

This video takes most people from western cultures outside their comfort zone, yet this video was doubtlessly watched several times by many of them.

Why?

It's not a matter of comfort zone, it's a matter of American culture...dogs are pets, not food. That's American culture. The last I checked, these were American cultures. So, just because you leave the country to fight in a war doesn't mean your culture leaves you and you adopt that of the locals. I'm only saying it should have been weird to that soldier as his culture from day one is that dogs are pets. Regardless of where you are, your culture stays with you. There is a difference between visiting a foreign area and trying dog dishes and you yourself killing a puppy by throwing it off a cliff (assuming it was alive).

I'm just saying his culture from being raised in the US should have kicked in and said "This is weird and not normal to me." Or, he's just a sadist.

Originally Posted by billbrasky

Morality isn’t bound by nationality or borders. Neither is pain, I have a wild hunch he placed a blatant trap and being short sighted and emotional you fell for it hook line and sinker (like the torturous fishing cliché).

Who cares if other people do it? To answer your question you do. Apparently as long as little brown people in third world countries do it, YOU don’t care.

Now if white men do it in a third world country (Iraq or Afghanistan) it becomes more savage?

Is it the whiteness of the soldiers or the fact they are Americans, those are your only two choices.... which (or both) do you hate?

I personally love dogs and would have a hard time shooting any dog that wasn’t biting me, or needed to be put out of its misery, or attacking some helpless person etc. I don’t like seeing animals in pain, otherwise I would have been a vet, and I love all critters. Your being terrible blind though.

Hey why we are at it what do you think of PETA? do you think that is a good organization for animal rights?

Wow, you really do jump on people and are pretty harsh and rough.

It's different when others do it in other countries as it's part of their culture...killing a dog that is, or eating a dog. Throwing a dog off a cliff for no reason other than to throw it off a cliff isn't normal for anyone. Killing a dog for the hide or for food may be normal and that's fine. I'm simply saying it's not a normal act for an American. Read above. My issue is that this guy threw the dog off the cliff for the sake of doing and found it necessary to videotape it for shock value. It's not as if the soldier was stranded away from his other soldiers and killed the dog for food.

Originally Posted by billbrasky

More important why is it only disturbing when American soldiers do it, but not Chinese villagers killing raccoon dogs for their fur to sell to make cloths. NOT TO EAT. Killing by punching them into the ground flinging by tail, and skinning them while they are still alive. Is that ok cause they aren’t white soldiers ?

See above and above. It's not the killing, but how it's done. It is disturbing when anyone bashed the head in of animal or just slams it against the wall. I'm not ok with skinning while it's alive...I'm not ok with the Asian dish where the fish is scaled alive, flash fired, and served while it's still attempting to breath. What's the point other than shock value?

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

I'm not ok with the Asian dish where the fish is scaled alive, flash fired, and served while it's still attempting to breath. What's the point other than shock value?

Man that sounds good! Have you got that receipe?

[retired]

JGB, in his statement that you quoted,

I know, but I was referring to his other post that you quoted. That is why I said the above.

[ArmyGuy45]

Originally Posted by justgotback

Man that sounds good! Have you got that receipe?

ill ship you some if you want!

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by ArmyGuy45

ill ship you some if you want!

Thanks but I want to cook them myself!!

[retired]

That Marine seems to be on the same tracks as Jeffery Dohmer. Oh no, wait.. He'll eventually end up on our streets as a LEO instead. GREAT

Ok, I'll bite. Redhatchbox, where did you come up with that off the wall statement. Are you implying, no saying that leos are crazed, Jeffrey Dahmer (if you are going to use his name, at least verify the spelling; if gives some credibilty) types.

If so, that is an insult to all of the good leos out there. Yes, there are some bad ones, but don't use that large of a brush in the future please.