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Old 03-02-2008, 08:06 PM   #11
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I think you are all right. They have had a choke hold put on them by GW and our other LEO's. If you look at the first attack they carried out, it was well planned and had many people involved. I honestly think they are trying to do it like they said. They are trying to kill the US from the inside out. If Obama wins the election you will see a hugh uprising and the process will start. What better way to kill a giant(USA) then to implant a Virus into the central nervous system.....
2 points here. First, I wouldn't consider Obama a virus implanted by radical Muslims. A socialist, yes.

Second point - I really don't think AQ cares about our political system, who's winning or losing the election. I just don't think they care. It has no affect on their plan to spread their ideology across the world. They hate our way of life and they want us dead...Republican, Democrat, and Independent.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:09 PM   #12
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I would add one more point. While the Iraq war is a debate for another thread, I do think there's merit in saying that AQ has resources tied up in the Middle East and they are busy dealing with our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't want this to turn into a debate on whether or not we should have invaded Iraq. But I believe regardless of your views of the war there, we are keeping them busy abroad.
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I should add that I believe there is evidence to support my second point. We've been attacked by radical Muslims under a variety of administrations.
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2 points here. First, I wouldn't consider Obama a virus implanted by radical Muslims. A socialist, yes.

Second point - I really don't think AQ cares about our political system, who's winning or losing the election. I just don't think they care. It has no affect on their plan to spread their ideology across the world. They hate our way of life and they want us dead...Republican, Democrat, and Independent.
While you are right about them wanting all americans dead regaurdless of race, religon or political affiliation. I do think you are wrong about them not carring about our political climate. They are watching and waiting. They know it'll be a cake ride once a democrate gets in office. It was before, Clinton had Bin laden and let him go. They know that if a democrate is in office all the have to do is wait till the US pulls out. Of course there will still be attacks on the troops all the way untill they are gone completly as they are not a disiplined military like ours there will always be radicals within the radicals that will keep coming. But after the dems pull the troops out of there then they can regroup (as you said we're keeping them busy over there) and then they can slip in under a not so watchfull eye because I'm sure there will be some social govt. program that AQ can apply for to help them aid thier organizations.
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I should add that I believe there is evidence to support my second point. We've been attacked by radical Muslims under a variety of administrations.

We've been attacked by Muslim's before anyone on this board was alive. And I'm not talking about Medevil times either. Even we have attacked Muslim's at one point in our History.

We've been at each other's throats for thousands of years. Not a whole lot is going to change that.

It's like the old saying goes more folks have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.
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Because a lot of people, who are NOT politicians .....
Do a really good job
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LOL, funny image. But we've had people doing their jobs in the past before GWB. I would certainly think that lowering the barriers put up by Janet Reno helped...with intelligence agencies working better together, although I'm sure there's still some friction there. But our borders are insecure. Surely AQ has folks here that are capable of carrying out attacks. Why haven't they attacked? Disrupted communications & infrastructure? Lack of funding from restrictions? Or are they simply much more patient than us?
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LOL, funny image. But we've had people doing their jobs in the past before GWB. I would certainly think that lowering the barriers put up by Janet Reno helped...with intelligence agencies working better together, although I'm sure there's still some friction there. But our borders are insecure. Surely AQ has folks here that are capable of carrying out attacks. Why haven't they attacked? Disrupted communications & infrastructure? Lack of funding from restrictions? Or are they simply much more patient than us?
Unfortunately it's probably everything you stated.

Yes, our borders are not secure. We know this and BP even states that they catch people all the time who are not from Mexico or South America attempting to sneak across the border. We also know that by their own admission, they apprehend approximately 10% of those who attempt to cross the border. The other 90% make it into this country.

Probably the biggest aspect is the cooperation of various agencies that, for whatever reason, did not communicate effectively in the past.

Finally, yes they are most likely very patient.
When the opposition out numbers you greatly, the best method is to wait, watch, and learn about vulnerabilities, then strike when the opportunity presents itself.

It sucks, but that is the way I view things.
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It is only a matter of time and it will probably be our schools, look what the Chechens did at the Beslan school massacre.
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They are trying to kill the US from the inside out. If Obama wins the election you will see a hugh uprising and the process will start. What better way to kill a giant(USA) then to implant a Virus into the central nervous system.....
What do you mean by virus?
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