Why would I want an FN 57? - Page 2 - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

**Old School** · 02-06-2008, 07:23 PM

A lot of fire power and a lot of capacity in a handgun from what I can see.

OS

nightrunner · 02-06-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisxd45t

I think the gun it self is around 900+.
Small for self defense, maybe. But if your 9mm or .45 can't penetrate body armor then what good is it?

good point

jeepinbanditrider · 02-06-2008, 07:26 PM

How many self defense scenarios have invovled body armor. The only one that comes to mind right away is the shooting at the court house in Texas.

**Kermee** · 02-06-2008, 07:30 PM

The FN P90 and FN PS90 carbine are the only other weapons which uses the 5.7x28mm cartridge. The SS190 variant of the cartridge, which is illegal for civilian use/purchase (falls under Class III) in the U.S. and for military use only, is what caused the huge following for a while.

FN claimed that the SS190 5.7x28mm cartridge from the pistol could pierce the older U.S. Army PASGT vest at 300 meters range, and a U.S. Army PASGT helmet at a range of 240 meters. Basically... it cuts through certain body armors like a hot knife on butter.

The SS190 has a muzzle velocity of 2,350 ft/sec in the FN P90 so I would assume the pistol variant would be fairly close too. This weapon was designed to penetrate/wound/kill, regardless of claims and counter-claims of it's stopping power.

The "standard" magazine holds 20 rounds. It's pretty impressive.

**DanTheEldest** · 02-06-2008, 07:33 PM

With all the talk of being a great penetrator, has anybody ever compared the FN with the 7.62x25 Tok round? I seem to remember it being a capable performer for quite a bit less money than the FN.

chrisxd45t · 02-06-2008, 07:33 PM

I think they had Military and LEOs in mind with the design of this round; I'm sure you already know that they use it in a submachine gun too.

Being small, the gun holds somewhere around 20rds in standard capacity.
And anyway, the small bullet argument is thrown at the AR with it's use of the 5.56 round, and most people don't seem to be bothered by that fact.
The downside to me is the price. But then again, it is a FN.

**yocan** · 02-06-2008, 07:42 PM

If your going to put multiple rounds into a fast moving target, it is the way to go. So on a battlefield against someone that isn't necessarily coming straight at you, (multiple targets engaging multiple people) I think it wouldn't be a bad way to do, especially considering the p90 if you use it the ammo is already supported by your units.

Personally I'll stick with 14 rounds of .357 sig, I think that will do the trick

Oh yeah, the SS192 ammo is the real trick, its steel and something else, so that if it hits a hard target it closes into a small ball and punches through, but a soft target it mushrooms, only ammo in the world to claim that. No idea how that feature performs, but that was the claim.

SS192 was never banned, to get the gun legal for sales to California, they voluntarily stopped import, if the ammo was available, I would be suggesting it for home defense for females.

TeeJay · 02-06-2008, 07:49 PM

So buying ammo for that would be ridiculously expensive? sweet concept though.

UncleBuck · 02-06-2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeeJay

So buying ammo for that would be ridiculously expensive? sweet concept though.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/fn_ammunition.html

Plinkomatic · 02-06-2008, 08:01 PM

I would just like to point out that Kermee posted on this thread.
Therefore, it's cool.

02-06-2008, 07:23 PM	#11
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,697	A lot of fire power and a lot of capacity in a handgun from what I can see. OS __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

02-06-2008, 07:26 PM	#13
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,855	How many self defense scenarios have invovled body armor. The only one that comes to mind right away is the shooting at the court house in Texas. __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

02-06-2008, 07:30 PM	#14
Kermee XDTalk Owner Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,172 Blog Entries: 1	The FN P90 and FN PS90 carbine are the only other weapons which uses the 5.7x28mm cartridge. The SS190 variant of the cartridge, which is illegal for civilian use/purchase (falls under Class III) in the U.S. and for military use only, is what caused the huge following for a while. FN claimed that the SS190 5.7x28mm cartridge from the pistol could pierce the older U.S. Army PASGT vest at 300 meters range, and a U.S. Army PASGT helmet at a range of 240 meters. Basically... it cuts through certain body armors like a hot knife on butter. The SS190 has a muzzle velocity of 2,350 ft/sec in the FN P90 so I would assume the pistol variant would be fairly close too. This weapon was designed to penetrate/wound/kill, regardless of claims and counter-claims of it's stopping power. The "standard" magazine holds 20 rounds. It's pretty impressive. __________________ -Kermee, Seattle, WA *Proverbs 3:5-7* "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil." Last edited by Kermee; 02-06-2008 at 07:33 PM.

02-06-2008, 07:33 PM	#15
DanTheEldest XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,528	With all the talk of being a great penetrator, has anybody ever compared the FN with the 7.62x25 Tok round? I seem to remember it being a capable performer for quite a bit less money than the FN. __________________ The only things more disturbing than the base ideologies of the new President are the lengths to which his supporters and apologists will go to try to convince themselves and the rest of us that he's not exactly who he says he is. Innocent life is cheap--a few hundred bucks for an abortion. Guilty life is expensive--a couple million for appeals, incarceration, and execution. How bass-ackwards is our society?

02-06-2008, 07:33 PM	#16
chrisxd45t XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Monterey/San Jose California Posts: 1,227	I think they had Military and LEOs in mind with the design of this round; I'm sure you already know that they use it in a submachine gun too. Being small, the gun holds somewhere around 20rds in standard capacity. And anyway, the small bullet argument is thrown at the AR with it's use of the 5.56 round, and most people don't seem to be bothered by that fact. The downside to me is the price. But then again, it is a FN. __________________ LEGALIZE FREEDOM

02-06-2008, 07:42 PM	#17
yocan XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,281	If your going to put multiple rounds into a fast moving target, it is the way to go. So on a battlefield against someone that isn't necessarily coming straight at you, (multiple targets engaging multiple people) I think it wouldn't be a bad way to do, especially considering the p90 if you use it the ammo is already supported by your units. Personally I'll stick with 14 rounds of .357 sig, I think that will do the trick Oh yeah, the SS192 ammo is the real trick, its steel and something else, so that if it hits a hard target it closes into a small ball and punches through, but a soft target it mushrooms, only ammo in the world to claim that. No idea how that feature performs, but that was the claim. SS192 was never banned, to get the gun legal for sales to California, they voluntarily stopped import, if the ammo was available, I would be suggesting it for home defense for females. __________________ The three requirements for a school shooting. 1 know the floorplan. 2 Know the threats inside the location and response time/entry time for the police 3. Royally screwed up intelligent analytic mind. We need more laws to protect these three rights. Ban guns in schools, it obviously works.

02-06-2008, 07:49 PM	#18
TeeJay XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Volusia County, FL Posts: 280	So buying ammo for that would be ridiculously expensive? sweet concept though. __________________ XD-45acp, tactical, OD green XD-40, sub compact, OD green and a growing collection of other lovely firearms..

02-06-2008, 08:01 PM	#20
Plinkomatic XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,317	I would just like to point out that Kermee posted on this thread. Therefore, it's cool. __________________ It's the year of the .22LR Last edited by Plinkomatic; 02-06-2008 at 08:17 PM.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-chatter-box/59934-why-would-i-want-fn-57-a.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date
Untitled document	This thread	Refback	02-26-2008 01:35 PM