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IndyMatt · 02-06-2008, 12:01 PM

But wouldn't the ECM throw an 06 series code identifying a specific cylinder?

Trouble Codes:
0608 - Cylinder 1 misfire
0607 - Cylinder 2 misfire
0606 - Cylinder 3 misfire
0605 - Cylinder 4 misfire
0604 - Cylinder 5 misfire
0603 - Cylinder 6 misfire

IndyMatt · 02-06-2008, 12:02 PM

Could I buy a OB 2 reader and do this myself or does it have to go to them?

Gravel · 02-06-2008, 12:03 PM

Depends on if it has a single coil failing or a couple. A crank or cam angle sensor is not going to care if the engine is under load, it will fail regardless of where the throttle is. If it were a crank/cam angle sensor, or even a MAF or something of that sort, it would throw that specific code. Only other potential thing would be a plugged fuel filter and you dropping cylinders because of inadequate fuel pressure but you would usually throw an O2 sensor code too.

newKid · 02-06-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brickboy240

You said the CE light is on....have you pulled the codes? That might tell you if you have a sensor that is crapped out.

I know that with our old Ford Explorer (our first...and last Ford!) when the CE light went on and the vehicle started bucking and missing...I thought the tranny was going out or something major, but after scanning, it turned out to be the MAF sensor.

The MAF sensor is usually located on the air intake snorkel. It is an inline piece that has an electrical solenoid part that plugs into your ECU and has to do with emissions. When it goes out...the CE light goes on and your vehicle will miss and sputter like mad. Ours did! My dad had the MAF sensor crap out in his 02 F-150 and it did the same thing. The MAF sensor has some small wire-like filaments that CAN be cleaned, using electrical parts cleaner and that can SOMETIMES fix the problem. Chances are, its older and the MAF sensor needs ot be replaced entirely. Don't buy an aftermarket cheapo MAF...they're junk...get a Nissan OEM one from a dealer or online. It is an easy thing to replace...even if you're not overly mechanically inclined. CLear the codes and you're back in biz!

If you have tried replacing the plugs and are running the CORRECT plugs, I'd try scanning it for codes and I'll bet its a sensor that has gone south. It might be an 02 sensor, but those usually just trigger the CE light and your mileage drops....no missing or odd running. There are scads of odd sensors on newer cars and if one craps out..they CAN make it run just as you described.

I am betting it is a sensor. Hundreds of thousands of miles on my Volvos over the years has taught me alot about replacing sensors and how a small piece of plastic like that can cause troubles when they go south.

- Brickboy240

awww. . .i really thought you were gonna make it through that without a Volvo plug. . .

IndyMatt · 02-06-2008, 12:20 PM

I don't know if this will help or not but it started getting worse and worse over time. At first it would only do it every once in awhile and then it now does it all the time.

Gravel · 02-06-2008, 01:32 PM

Toughest thing here is doing this as an "internet diagnoses".

With doing this over the internet it becomes an interpretation of your description, if i were to drive it, I could tell right away what it was.

If you romp on it and stay in it, what does it do?

ParagonUSMC · 02-06-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RBOWWOW

Nissans are "Chains" - usually the last thing on the car to fail.

It depends on the motor. Nissans with the VG30 and VG33 engines (300ZX's, Xterras, Frontiers) have belts. That's just off the top of my head. I'm not sure about the Maximas, though. I'm really only familiar with the VGs and the KA series motors.

EDIT: The maxima does have a chain.

RBOWWOW · 02-06-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ParagonUSMC

It depends on the motor. Nissans with the VG30 and VG33 engines (300ZX's, Xterras, Frontiers) have belts. That's just off the top of my head. I'm not sure about the Maximas, though. I'm really only familiar with the VGs and the KA series motors.

EDIT: The maxima does have a chain.

oops shoulda clarified Maximas, Altimas and Sentras = Chain

IndyMatt · 02-06-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravel

Toughest thing here is doing this as an "internet diagnoses".

With doing this over the internet it becomes an interpretation of your description, if i were to drive it, I could tell right away what it was.

If you romp on it and stay in it, what does it do?

I can understand that, if you really push it, that is when it really hesitates and misses. When going up hills it starts to miss as well. That is when that light starts to blink like crazy!

Gravel · 02-06-2008, 05:57 PM

Is the hesitation separate from the miss, or are you talking about basically the same thing?

02-06-2008, 12:03 PM	#23
Gravel XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 2,270	Depends on if it has a single coil failing or a couple. A crank or cam angle sensor is not going to care if the engine is under load, it will fail regardless of where the throttle is. If it were a crank/cam angle sensor, or even a MAF or something of that sort, it would throw that specific code. Only other potential thing would be a plugged fuel filter and you dropping cylinders because of inadequate fuel pressure but you would usually throw an O2 sensor code too. __________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

02-06-2008, 01:32 PM	#26
Gravel XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 2,270	Toughest thing here is doing this as an "internet diagnoses". With doing this over the internet it becomes an interpretation of your description, if i were to drive it, I could tell right away what it was. If you romp on it and stay in it, what does it do? __________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

02-06-2008, 05:57 PM	#30
Gravel XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 2,270	Is the hesitation separate from the miss, or are you talking about basically the same thing? __________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

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02-06-2008, 12:01 PM	#21
IndyMatt XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 619	But wouldn't the ECM throw an 06 series code identifying a specific cylinder? Trouble Codes: 0608 - Cylinder 1 misfire 0607 - Cylinder 2 misfire 0606 - Cylinder 3 misfire 0605 - Cylinder 4 misfire 0604 - Cylinder 5 misfire 0603 - Cylinder 6 misfire

02-06-2008, 12:02 PM	#22
IndyMatt XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 619	Could I buy a OB 2 reader and do this myself or does it have to go to them?

02-06-2008, 12:20 PM	#25
IndyMatt XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 619	I don't know if this will help or not but it started getting worse and worse over time. At first it would only do it every once in awhile and then it now does it all the time.