New Iraq Technique

[wirelessjack]

Originally Posted by Ishpeck

Some colonel is convinced that Al Qaeda is behind it.

Lets just all hope that McCain isnt elected into office so that we can be allowed to move on from this unjustified war. He wants to keep us there for another 100 billion $'s, sorry, I mean years. The current administration's foreign policy is no different than what will come to be if we allow him to take control of this country. I refuse to continue to allow our men and women, fathers, sons, daughters, moms and dads to be sent to their deaths all for the cruel and evil men behind this in there search for black gold.

[Tempest]

Too bad they can do this and the world says, "oh, well if you werent pissing them off, they wouldnt do it."

Well said.

I refuse to continue to allow our men and women, fathers, sons, daughters, moms and dads to be sent to their deaths all for the cruel and evil men behind this in there search for black gold.

Do you drive a car? Get things from the market? By things with plastic packaging? Have a computer?

[Krackels]

Originally Posted by Bree

I was really angered today to read that some Iraqi group took a couple of mentally retarded women, strapped explosives to their bodies, sent them out into a marketplace, and remote detonated them killing many people. Not sure who did it. I haven't seen this technique before and I must say it nauseates me.

Just f$%^ing disgusting.

That's not new. They've been doing that since the beginning. I forget where I read it first.

I think it might've been Iraq the model.
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/200...esistance.html

...The suicide attack that was performed on an election center in one of Baghdad's districts (Baghdad Al-Jadeedah) last Sunday was performed using a kidnapped "Down Syndrome" patient.
Eye witnesses said (and I'm quoting one of my colleagues; a dentist who lives there) "the poor victim was so scared when ordered to walk to the searching point and began to walk back to the terrorists. In response the criminals pressed the button and blew up the poor victim almost half way between their position and the voting center's entrance". . . .

http://thebeakspeaks.blogspot.com/20...finds-job.html
Hamas has been using that technique for years.

http://preoccupiedterritory.blogspot...britannia.html
not new for Palestinian terrorists.

Some more food for thought.http://rightwingsparkle.blogspot.com...nfederate.html

[wirelessjack]

Originally Posted by Tempest

Well said.

Do you drive a car? Get things from the market? By things with plastic packaging? Have a computer?

As a matter of fact, I do drive a car. I also go to the Market. And yes I own a computer.

Car = Vegetarien e85 Market = Local farmers whom I know personally Computer = Abacus

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by wirelessjack

Lets just all hope that McCain isnt elected into office so that we can be allowed to move on from this unjustified war. He wants to keep us there for another 100 billion $'s, sorry, I mean years. The current administration's foreign policy is no different than what will come to be if we allow him to take control of this country. I refuse to continue to allow our men and women, fathers, sons, daughters, moms and dads to be sent to their deaths all for the cruel and evil men behind this in there search for black gold.

WRONG. I dont know where you get your news, i heard him, he DID NOT say that. That may be what you wanted to hear, those are not his words. Nice try though.

PS it would not be unlikely (to remain in iraq for 100 years) we are still in asia, germany and japan as a hold over from WWII, and our very own member ARMYGUY is serving in korea from korean war. Being an anti war, anti protecting america no doubt you thought being in iraq means terrible numbers of blood shed for a hundred years.

How much does being in korea, or germany, or england cost us per year wise guy?

PS i admire mcains service and not letting his torturers get the best of him, i am not a super fan of his by a mile. He was not my choice for leader. Lets quote actual quotes here, not what you hear at the water cooler with your america hating co workers etc.

[wirelessjack]

Originally Posted by billbrasky

WRONG. I dont know where you get your news, i heard him, he DID NOT say that. That may be what you wanted to hear, those are not his words. Nice try though.

PS it would not be unlikely (to remain in iraq for 100 years) we are still in asia, germany and japan as a hold over from WWII, and our very own member ARMYGUY is serving in korea from korean war. Being an anti war, anti protecting america no doubt you thought being in iraq means terrible numbers of blood shed for a hundred years.

How much does being in korea, or germany, or england cost us per year wise guy?

PS i admire mcains service and not letting his torturers get the best of him, i am not a super fan of his by a mile. He was not my choice for leader. Lets quote actual quotes here, not what you hear at the water cooler with your america hating co workers etc.

As everyone eyes Iowa, a late breaking development from the Straight Talk Express. McCain was just in a Q&A with reporters, and essentially said he'd be good with occupying Iraq for 100 years. Lets see how long the McCain "surge" lasts...
Here's the back and forth, footage to follow:
Q: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years -- " (cut off by McCain)
McCain: "Make it a hundred."
Q: "Is that ..." (cut off)
McCain: "We've been in South Korea ... we've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans ..."
Q: [tries to say something]
McCain: "As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That's fine with me, I hope that would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Queada is training and equipping and recruiting and motivating people every single day.




just 1 example.........more to come

[Krackels]

Originally Posted by billbrasky

WRONG. I dont know where you get your news, i heard him, he DID NOT say that. That may be what you wanted to hear, those are not his words. Nice try though.

PS it would not be unlikely (to remain in iraq for 100 years) we are still in asia, germany and japan as a hold over from WWII, and our very own member ARMYGUY is serving in korea from korean war. Being an anti war, anti protecting america no doubt you thought being in iraq means terrible numbers of blood shed for a hundred years.

How much does being in korea, or germany, or england cost us per year wise guy?

PS i admire mcains service and not letting his torturers get the best of him, i am not a super fan of his by a mile. He was not my choice for leader. Lets quote actual quotes here, not what you hear at the water cooler with your america hating co workers etc.

Just in case you still don't believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM

Sorry to hijack.

And just to clarify.

Originally Posted by wirelessjack

I refuse to continue to allow our men and women, fathers, sons, daughters, moms and dads to be sent to their deaths all for the cruel and evil men behind this in there search for black gold.

I don't believe we sent our troops there for oil. If that was the case than why is it that we haven't seen so much as a drop of oil from Iraq, not even as a fair compensation for our troops being over there? Plus if we took any of the oil, it would feed into everyone who believes we were sent there for oil. Please give the current administration some credit. Contrary to what you believe they're not stupid.

I believe it was more of a knee jerk reaction. Much like you'd see on the playground. Kid gets punched in the nose.
Friend says, you can't not do something. Hit Jack.
But he's bigger and he didn't even hit me...
I know. It doesn't matter. It will let everyone else know that they can't **** with you without repurcussions.

The other part of it was Sadam at one time had WMDs and put on the fascade of still having them, and also was a sponsor of terror. While the link between 9/11 and Iraq was shaky at best it was deemed necessary to follow up on previous threats that if you're not with us, you're with them.

Of course, there are many other factors in play here e.g. the majority of the attackers were Saudis and we couldn't attack one of the major players in the oil trade/and possible the richest country in the world.

The real problem is the administration's foreign policy. "You're either with us, or your with the terrorists." That's all fine and dandy, and I'm sure it made every American feel good. But it was one of the worst things he could've said for everyone else.

[AZXD]

The one thing I really don't get on this board is how someone can state, or imply that they are against the war and they are automatically labeled as being anti-American, or anti-protecting America

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by AZXD

The one thing I really don't get on this board is how someone can state, or imply that they are against the war and they are automatically labeled as being anti-American, or anti-protecting America

Who is doing that?

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by wirelessjack

As everyone eyes Iowa, a late breaking development from the Straight Talk Express. McCain was just in a Q&A with reporters, and essentially said he'd be good with occupying Iraq for 100 years. Lets see how long the McCain "surge" lasts...
Here's the back and forth, footage to follow:
Q: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years -- " (cut off by McCain)
McCain: "Make it a hundred."
Q: "Is that ..." (cut off)
McCain: "We've been in South Korea ... we've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea 50 years or so. That would be fine with me. As long as Americans ..."
Q: [tries to say something]
McCain: "As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That's fine with me, I hope that would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Queada is training and equipping and recruiting and motivating people every single day.




just 1 example.........more to come

He didn’t say he WANTED to be in Iraq period. We are already there he said STAY a hundred years, which is a fine strategy. Perfectly inline with history and what we and others have done in the past, THIS IS THE WAY THINGS WORK. He didn’t say he wanted blood shed for a hundred years, and didn’t say anything beyond us being there. Anymore reading into it is just to fulfill your own terrible view of the future.

PS your bitching about money, I talked in another thread recently that we could pay for the war in about 10 years have it paid off if we just removed the public school system from the clutches of the commie teachers union, had school of choice where you can take your school dollars with you, reduce spending 30% easy just making schools more efficient like they are in Europe we could pay for the way straight up in 10 years. This crap of WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT FOR generations, is just if we want to pay for it for generations, its still less than we pay for old folks, well fare and social programs. Protecting America is in the constitution, the military HAS to protect us, it’s the law, not react.... PROTECT. There is nothing in the constitution about social programs. We have TONS of money to pay for the war.