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jtkratzer · 01-14-2008, 09:11 PM

Myth Busters is on right now and they're working on a myth about how people fly around after getting shot in the movies. They're shooting a 185 lb pig hung from some homemade swing.

They went over safety rules very clearly and I was impressed. They have two guys with the firearms, a trainer for the San Fransisco police department and a former SWAT sniper team leader.

They used the following firearms and didn't get much movement at all from the pig:
M4 is what they called it, but it was actually an MP5, in 9mm with hollowpoints.

Thompson submachine gun....45 acp.

.44 magnum with a 240 grain load.

AR15

MP5 on full auto

Something in .30-06 bolt action rifle.

Slug from a shotgun...the pig fell, but it could have been the failure of the chain more than the slug since it just dropped straight down and didn't go back at all.

We're at commercial break right now and they're bringing in Buster, the dummy, next.

EDIT: I forgot to add the statistic I found interesting and the reason I posted the thread: 70% of all fatal shootings occur at 22 feet. I don't know who or what their source is, but I thought that was pretty interesting. Just over 7 yards.

**Grip** · 01-14-2008, 09:18 PM

thats an old episode

jtkratzer · 01-14-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Grip

thats an old episode

That's fine, I haven't seen it. I was impressed with their discussion of safety at the range and gun safety rules.

Captain Jack · 01-14-2008, 09:32 PM

I was never impresed with their gun myth testing other than the dead bolt shot and the hangman's knoose myth. But it is fun to watch them shoot stuff.

Yuppicide · 01-14-2008, 09:44 PM

I've actually watched 'em shoot stuff at the Chabot range down here in OakTown.
I thought it was funny that THEY get to "Blow SHNITZ up", and I've gotten yelled at by the Range "Master" for shooting at an OSAMA BIN LADEN target!

**DanTheEldest** · 01-14-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

I thought it was funny that THEY get to "Blow SHNITZ up", and I've gotten yelled at by the Range "Master" for shooting at an OSAMA BIN LADEN target!

I reject your reality and choose to substitute my own.

Captain Jack · 01-14-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

I've actually watched 'em shoot stuff at the Chabot range down here in OakTown.
I thought it was funny that THEY get to "Blow SHNITZ up", and I've gotten yelled at by the Range "Master" for shooting at an OSAMA BIN LADEN target!

Well, Allah forbit there is a muslim shooting there as well, and he get's offended.

I think that is where that range master was coming from. Wouldn't want to offend anyone, you know. PC and all that junk.

I wonder why they don't go to the outdoor range in Campbell. It isn't that much further than Oakland is. Oh well. It'd be cool if I ever see them over at Jackson Arms.

mpak87 · 01-14-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Jack

Well, Allah forbit there is a muslim shooting there as well, and he get's offended.

I think that is where that range master was coming from. Wouldn't want to offend anyone, you know. PC and all that junk.

I wonder why they don't go to the outdoor range in Campbell. It isn't that much further than Oakland is. Oh well. It'd be cool if I ever see them over at Jackson Arms.

There is an old set of NRA range rules floating around, I've seen them at every public range in the state of Alaska that I have shot at. In addition to banning holster draw shooting (they host IDPA matches, but god forbid anyone practice for them) there's a rule at the end of the list that prohibits shooting at targets with any discernible likeness to a real person. This part seems reasonable to me, though you would think OBL would be exempt from it. That's where I think he was coming from. As far as the Muslim being offended there, I have a feeling that the only one you'd find would be similar to Nikon777. I wouldn't presume to put words in his mouth, but I somehow doubt that that would be too much of a problem.

Captain Jack · 01-15-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mpak87

There is an old set of NRA range rules floating around, I've seen them at every public range in the state of Alaska that I have shot at. In addition to banning holster draw shooting (they host IDPA matches, but god forbid anyone practice for them) there's a rule at the end of the list that prohibits shooting at targets with any discernible likeness to a real person. This part seems reasonable to me, though you would think OBL would be exempt from it. That's where I think he was coming from. As far as the Muslim being offended there, I have a feeling that the only one you'd find would be similar to Nikon777. I wouldn't presume to put words in his mouth, but I somehow doubt that that would be too much of a problem.

I was being sarcastic, but yeah. I didn't know about those rules, but that's good to know. Thanks.

Yuppicide · 01-15-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Jack

Well, Allah forbit there is a muslim shooting there as well, and he get's offended.

I think that is where that range master was coming from. Wouldn't want to offend anyone, you know. PC and all that junk.

Thats like Me seeing someone shooting at a HITLER TARGET, and being offended that the targets a white guy!

01-14-2008, 09:11 PM	#1
jtkratzer XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lancaster Co., PA Posts: 17,542	Interesting statistics from Myth Busters Myth Busters is on right now and they're working on a myth about how people fly around after getting shot in the movies. They're shooting a 185 lb pig hung from some homemade swing. They went over safety rules very clearly and I was impressed. They have two guys with the firearms, a trainer for the San Fransisco police department and a former SWAT sniper team leader. They used the following firearms and didn't get much movement at all from the pig: M4 is what they called it, but it was actually an MP5, in 9mm with hollowpoints. Thompson submachine gun....45 acp. .44 magnum with a 240 grain load. AR15 MP5 on full auto Something in .30-06 bolt action rifle. Slug from a shotgun...the pig fell, but it could have been the failure of the chain more than the slug since it just dropped straight down and didn't go back at all. We're at commercial break right now and they're bringing in Buster, the dummy, next. EDIT: I forgot to add the statistic I found interesting and the reason I posted the thread: 70% of all fatal shootings occur at 22 feet. I don't know who or what their source is, but I thought that was pretty interesting. Just over 7 yards. __________________ "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson The Gun Lounge Pennyslvania Firearms Owners Association Hockey Forum Last edited by jtkratzer; 01-15-2008 at 07:13 AM.

01-14-2008, 09:44 PM	#5
Yuppicide XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Get outta my way! Can't you see I'm from East Bay? -NOFX Posts: 2,136	I've actually watched 'em shoot stuff at the Chabot range down here in OakTown. I thought it was funny that THEY get to "Blow SHNITZ up", and I've gotten yelled at by the Range "Master" for shooting at an OSAMA BIN LADEN target! __________________ . "I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter....."

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01-14-2008, 09:18 PM	#2
Grip XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,307	thats an old episode

01-14-2008, 09:32 PM	#4
Captain Jack XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,742	I was never impresed with their gun myth testing other than the dead bolt shot and the hangman's knoose myth. But it is fun to watch them shoot stuff.