YouTube Video .380 & .45acp Waterjugs

[Captain Jack]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Sigs are nice. My next gun is going to be a Sig but 1911 is the king of all .45ACPs.

Get the best of both. Sig makes their own 1911's

[VaGunNut]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Boy you better be interested in a 1911. You aint a man until you get a 1911.

But Sir I have heard they are as addictive as crack

[Boma]

When they make a 45 the same size as my P3AT I'll take one =p jk.

I love 45ACP way better than a 380acp, but my 380 is painless to carry.

I do not care for the 380 round at all....

[danp]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

You know I see alot of talk about .45 vs .40 vs 9mm vs .380 etc. I think the bottom line is as long as you hit the fool you're ok. I was reading an article and it said you want stopping power, not killing power. By show of hands you wants to get hit by a .380? That jug got hit once and was leaking from both sides.

Interesting. So you think a hit is a hit is a hit? I carry everything from a .22 to a .45 and I will tell you from first hand experiance that bigger is better. You should carry the biggest thing you can hit with. A hit with a .380 is absolutely not the same as a hit from a .45.

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by danp

Interesting. So you think a hit is a hit is a hit? I carry everything from a .22 to a .45 and I will tell you from first hand experiance that bigger is better. You should carry the biggest thing you can hit with. A hit with a .380 is absolutely not the same as a hit from a .45.

Yes I think a hit is a hit because 1 hit is better than no hit. Many agree that placement is key. I'd rather put a .380 in the head or the chest, than a .45 in the arm or the leg.

Again, aside from a person hopped up on that stuff that makes people invincible, show me where a .380 would not have did the job. Besides I'd rather have 15 rounds of 9mm than 7 rounds of .45.

I wouldnt carry a .22 but my friend carried a .25 and its probably saved his ass a couple of times.

[danp]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Again, aside from a person hopped up on that stuff that makes people invincible, show me where a .380 would not have did the job. Besides I'd rather have 15 rounds of 9mm than 7 rounds of .45.

OK, March 2004 I was attacked by a pit bull. It took six center of mass hits from my Bersa .380 and I killed it by breaking its neck while it was locked onto my left arm. In Nov. 2005, we were serving a warrant and were charged by another pit. My partner killed it with a center of mass double-tap with his Kimber .45.

Two charging dogs of the same size and breed, one soaked up .380's and the other dropped with two .45's. A .380 simply does not have as much energy as a .45. Period.

A hit with a .380 is better than a miss with a .45, yes; but carry the biggest gun you can make hits with. If a .380 is all you can hit with and you're healthy, you need to practice more. A .357 or a .45 is not impossible to shoot accurately. A good hit with a .380 may do it eventually, but a .45 in the same place will do it right now.

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by danp

OK, March 2004 I was attacked by a pit bull. It took six center of mass hits from my Bersa .380 and I killed it by breaking its neck while it was locked onto my left arm. In Nov. 2005, we were serving a warrant and were charged by another pit. My partner killed it with a center of mass double-tap with his Kimber .45.

Two charging dogs of the same size and breed, one soaked up .380's and the other dropped with two .45's. A .380 simply does not have as much energy as a .45. Period.

A hit with a .380 is better than a miss with a .45, yes; but carry the biggest gun you can make hits with. If a .380 is all you can hit with and you're healthy, you need to practice more. A .357 or a .45 is not impossible to shoot accurately. A good hit with a .380 may do it eventually, but a .45 in the same place will do it right now.

Animals are a completely different animal. They dont have the sense to go away. Put a hot .380 round a dude and see what he does.

[danp]

Depends on his motivation. Someone who's mad and coming for you isn't going to stop unless incapacitated. A .45 has a much better chance of destroying something vital than a .380.

I caught a .22 once, it just pissed me off. A .45 in the same place would have killed me.

[KEVWYO]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Yes I think a hit is a hit because 1 hit is better than no hit. Many agree that placement is key. I'd rather put a .380 in the head or the chest, than a .45 in the arm or the leg.

Again, aside from a person hopped up on that stuff that makes people invincible, show me where a .380 would not have did the job. Besides I'd rather have 15 rounds of 9mm than 7 rounds of .45.

First off lets compare apples to apples when comparing where the bullet hits. What's gonna work better: a 380 to the chest or a 45? Hint ... it's the one with the bigger numbers.

Secondly, for me if my choice was 15 rounds of 380 or 14 rounds of 45 guess what my choice would be? Hint .... the one with the bigger number where caliber is concerned.

As far as the video is concerned it's just like they say on the Box 'O Truth: shooting stuff is fun!

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by danp

Depends on his motivation. Someone who's mad and coming for you isn't going to stop unless incapacitated. A .45 has a much better chance of destroying something vital than a .380.

I caught a .22 once, it just pissed me off. A .45 in the same place would have killed me.

That same .22 in the right place would have kill you too. Placement > caliber.