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**Frenchy** · 01-10-2008, 03:04 PM

January 10, 2008

Did you see that funny YouTube where Mike Huckabee's young Iowa
spokesman endorsed me, "by mistake"? We know what was in his mind! Indeed, I
am amazed at the friendliness of the supporters of other candidates.
Many
Obama voters, for example, in Iowa and New Hampshire are reading our
literature, and studying our ideas. It's just one of the reasons I am so
optimistic about what we are doing, and where we are heading. And so
were the
500 or 600 people at our New Hampshire rally after the primary. I
talked to everyone there, and they are rightly enthusiastic about our
movement.

This does not mean we will have an easy time of it -- just the
opposite, of course. After all, we are seeking to reverse more than a century
of big government, of the warfare-welfare state, of Federal Reserve's
dollar
manipulation, of a fat and happy military-industrial complex, of the
subversion of our Constitution. So all the media and other "second-hand
dealers in ideas," as F.A. Hayek called them, who have a vested interest
in the current order, will do everything possible to smear me. They
will do and say anything to try to block our movement. Even vote fraud
is not beyond these people.

And we have been successful. This movement has always operated on two
tracks -- intellectual and political, and must. The first and most
important is the intellectual. Such heroes of freedom as Ludwig von Mises,
Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Murray Rothbard, and so many others like Rose
Wilder Lane, John T. Flynn, Isabel Patterson, and Garret Garrett, have
helped build the foundations of freedom, prosperity, and peace. We carry on
their work, to change hearts and minds.

The other track is political. Here too, we have touched millions with
our ideas, and recruited many, many thousands -- not only in Meetup
Groups and as voters, but as sympathizers and future voters too. Walter
Block
was kind enough to call this effort the most important in the long
history of libertarianism. I don't know about that, but I do know that even
if we place a solid fourth, rather than the higher place we all want
and are working so hard
for, that is huge progress.

But we can never forget that this is a long struggle. Many great men
and women have lived and died in this cause. I have been deeply involved
in it all my life. It is a matter of educational work, and elections.
We may not accomplish all we want, in one or even two elections. But we
will accomplish it. Young people now living will see the free society
that you and I dream of, as their everyday reality, an America at peace,
prosperous and free, with the federal government chained down y the
Constitution, as Jefferson said.

Does this mean our campaign has done everything right? No! We have made
mistakes, and will make them again. Not only because errors are to be
found in any human endeavor, but because an effort like this, to repeal
a hundred years and more of evil, is brand-new on the face of the
earth. But now is the time to stick together like the brothers and sisters
we are, to stand side by side in this fight against the media toadies,
warmongers, and Wall Street rip-off artists who stand against us, and
who always remind me of Tolkein's Orcs.

If you have suggestions for me to do better, I want to hear them. But
beating back the enemy, teaching so many young people and others about
liberty, that is our victory, and it is real and permanent. Won't you
link arms with me? We will have more vote victories too, if we stick
together and do not let the enemy divide us.

As you know, and as our neocon enemies try to cover up, we are in a
financial crisis. It may chug along at this pace, slowly into recession,
or it might drop off a cliff, like the dollar. In that case, we will
have the only coherent solution, and we must get our message out.

All my life, I've been working to make sure that when the Fed had done
its work, and the special interests had looted the system to their
hearts' content, and there was a crisis, I would be in a position to speak
the truth about why, and what to do about it. In this fight, I need
your heart, your mind, your time, and your financial support. I also
need you to become a precinct leader
https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/ . What a fight we are in.
What stakes there are. Together, we can build a new America faithful to
the values of the framers. Bother the enemy, help the good cause: make
your most generous contribution https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/,
and let's roll up our sleeves and get to work, together.

Sincerely,

Ron

Tempest · 01-10-2008, 04:21 PM

"a fat and happy military-industrial complex, of the
subversion of our Constitution."

"of Federal Reserve's dollar manipulation,"

"and who always remind me of Tolkein's Orcs."

"and as our neocon enemies"

"I've been working to make sure that when the Fed had done its work"

Enough talking points and labeling for everyone?

This is pure polictical drivel designed to stir up the followers. There are NO answers here.

**eric_t12** · 01-10-2008, 05:40 PM

as good as a certain member's sig line at "talking points" he requests you to "debate."

what's good for the goose...

and at least there's no referrence to being "hung as traitors" in this conversation.

Cogz · 01-10-2008, 07:09 PM

Btw, he is kicking BUTT tonight at the debates.

**AZXD** · 01-10-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cogz

Btw, he is kicking BUTT tonight at the debates.

It figures I'm at work on a good night.

I know who the copycat's are, so tell me,
Who's screwing up real bad, anyone ???

xdgunner9mm · 01-10-2008, 08:31 PM

Why is Ron Paul raising boatloads of money but not running any meaninful media campaign? These guys get to pocket the leftover campaign chest when they retire. Nice to retire with millions????

What debate did you watch? People were laughing at him.

Cogz · 01-10-2008, 08:33 PM

Fox came at him hard - gave him loaded questions, cut off his earpiece so he couldn't hear the question - and Ron hit all pitches right back at the pitcher.

Cogz · 01-10-2008, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdgunner9mm

Why is Ron Paul raising boatloads of money but not running any meaninful media campaign? These guys get to pocket the leftover campaign chest when they retire. Nice to retire with millions????

What debate did you watch? People were laughing at him.

Why does Giuliani have cash and is not spending it?

ROPE
a
DOpe.

They were laughing at an honestly funny moment. I don't think answering a topic but not answering a question per'se is a huge deal. Other candidates have done it and have rarely been called on it.

Fox was attacking him tonight.

Captain Jack · 01-10-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cogz

Btw, he is kicking BUTT tonight at the debates.

It's too bad he hasn't done as well in Iowa, Wyoming, and NH though.

xdgunner9mm · 01-10-2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cogz

Why does Giuliani have cash and is not spending it?

ROPE
a
DOpe.

They were laughing at an honestly funny moment. I don't think answering a topic but not answering a question per'se is a huge deal. Other candidates have done it and have rarely been called on it.

Fox was attacking him tonight.

Julie is dead now if he wasn't before the debate. He is running out of money from the reports I've read and putting all his marbles into Florida. I couldn't believe how he avoided answering the question about his national security experience by talking about the Dem's tax plans before answering about foriegn policy not security.

01-10-2008, 03:04 PM	#1
Frenchy XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mid-Missouri Posts: 12,890	[PV] Onward...Ron Paul January 10, 2008 Did you see that funny YouTube where Mike Huckabee's young Iowa spokesman endorsed me, "by mistake"? We know what was in his mind! Indeed, I am amazed at the friendliness of the supporters of other candidates. Many Obama voters, for example, in Iowa and New Hampshire are reading our literature, and studying our ideas. It's just one of the reasons I am so optimistic about what we are doing, and where we are heading. And so were the 500 or 600 people at our New Hampshire rally after the primary. I talked to everyone there, and they are rightly enthusiastic about our movement. This does not mean we will have an easy time of it -- just the opposite, of course. After all, we are seeking to reverse more than a century of big government, of the warfare-welfare state, of Federal Reserve's dollar manipulation, of a fat and happy military-industrial complex, of the subversion of our Constitution. So all the media and other "second-hand dealers in ideas," as F.A. Hayek called them, who have a vested interest in the current order, will do everything possible to smear me. They will do and say anything to try to block our movement. Even vote fraud is not beyond these people. And we have been successful. This movement has always operated on two tracks -- intellectual and political, and must. The first and most important is the intellectual. Such heroes of freedom as Ludwig von Mises, Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Murray Rothbard, and so many others like Rose Wilder Lane, John T. Flynn, Isabel Patterson, and Garret Garrett, have helped build the foundations of freedom, prosperity, and peace. We carry on their work, to change hearts and minds. The other track is political. Here too, we have touched millions with our ideas, and recruited many, many thousands -- not only in Meetup Groups and as voters, but as sympathizers and future voters too. Walter Block was kind enough to call this effort the most important in the long history of libertarianism. I don't know about that, but I do know that even if we place a solid fourth, rather than the higher place we all want and are working so hard for, that is huge progress. But we can never forget that this is a long struggle. Many great men and women have lived and died in this cause. I have been deeply involved in it all my life. It is a matter of educational work, and elections. We may not accomplish all we want, in one or even two elections. But we will accomplish it. Young people now living will see the free society that you and I dream of, as their everyday reality, an America at peace, prosperous and free, with the federal government chained down y the Constitution, as Jefferson said. Does this mean our campaign has done everything right? No! We have made mistakes, and will make them again. Not only because errors are to be found in any human endeavor, but because an effort like this, to repeal a hundred years and more of evil, is brand-new on the face of the earth. But now is the time to stick together like the brothers and sisters we are, to stand side by side in this fight against the media toadies, warmongers, and Wall Street rip-off artists who stand against us, and who always remind me of Tolkein's Orcs. If you have suggestions for me to do better, I want to hear them. But beating back the enemy, teaching so many young people and others about liberty, that is our victory, and it is real and permanent. Won't you link arms with me? We will have more vote victories too, if we stick together and do not let the enemy divide us. As you know, and as our neocon enemies try to cover up, we are in a financial crisis. It may chug along at this pace, slowly into recession, or it might drop off a cliff, like the dollar. In that case, we will have the only coherent solution, and we must get our message out. All my life, I've been working to make sure that when the Fed had done its work, and the special interests had looted the system to their hearts' content, and there was a crisis, I would be in a position to speak the truth about why, and what to do about it. In this fight, I need your heart, your mind, your time, and your financial support. I also need you to become a precinct leader https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/grassroots/ . What a fight we are in. What stakes there are. Together, we can build a new America faithful to the values of the framers. Bother the enemy, help the good cause: make your most generous contribution https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/, and let's roll up our sleeves and get to work, together. Sincerely, Ron __________________ ~SC Harvey~ 2008 Election..."Imbrace your ignorance, and vote your preference". It's quite simple, really... *If you vote for Obama, you are a fuking idiot. If you vote for McCain, you are a fuking idiot.* *If your vote is for the lessor of two evils, then you can be comforted knowing that you're less of a fuking idiot than the other guy! Because Fritz says so! RON PAUL IN 2008**

01-10-2008, 04:21 PM	#2
Tempest XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 567	"a fat and happy military-industrial complex, of the subversion of our Constitution." "of Federal Reserve's dollar manipulation," "and who always remind me of Tolkein's Orcs." "and as our neocon enemies" "I've been working to make sure that when the Fed had done its work" Enough talking points and labeling for everyone? This is pure polictical drivel designed to stir up the followers. There are NO answers here. __________________ Tempest

01-10-2008, 05:40 PM	#3
eric_t12 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SD Posts: 3,639	as good as a certain member's sig line at "talking points" he requests you to "debate." what's good for the goose... and at least there's no referrence to being "hung as traitors" in this conversation. __________________ FBI: Gun Owners are Potential Terrorists Our Economic Future: GAO 21st Century Challenges The Police Have No Duty To Protect You VFW Life Member GOA Life Member

01-10-2008, 07:09 PM	#4
Cogz XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 250	Btw, he is kicking BUTT tonight at the debates. __________________ Sig P226 .40 S&W - 357sig Bar-Sto conversion barrel - Tru-Glo Brite Sites Springfield XD45 Compact - Tru-Glo TFO's

01-10-2008, 08:33 PM	#7
Cogz XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 250	Fox came at him hard - gave him loaded questions, cut off his earpiece so he couldn't hear the question - and Ron hit all pitches right back at the pitcher. __________________ Sig P226 .40 S&W - 357sig Bar-Sto conversion barrel - Tru-Glo Brite Sites Springfield XD45 Compact - Tru-Glo TFO's

01-10-2008, 08:31 PM	#6
xdgunner9mm XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 188	Why is Ron Paul raising boatloads of money but not running any meaninful media campaign? These guys get to pocket the leftover campaign chest when they retire. Nice to retire with millions???? What debate did you watch? People were laughing at him.

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