Jim Gilchrist and the Minutemen endorse Huckabee - (PV)

[PackerfanXD]

WTF happened to my thread?

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by PackerfanXD

WTF happened to my thread?

Enough said

[retired]

Any respect I may had for him as the leader of the original Minuteman Organization just disappeared by him supporting Huckalbee.

I have already quoted in a prior post Huckalbee's stance on illegal aliens; it is amnesty despite what he or his staff say. Additionally, the fact the reliigous fundamentalists appear to be supoort him wholeheartedly, is another factor to turn me off to him.

Religion should not be part of the election issues IMO, there are more important ones to be discussed. And if IIRC, it has been mentioned before that the founding fathers wrote a statement to the affect relgion shouldn't not be something to beconsidered when selecting a President. I could be incorrect as my sleeping pills are working strongly and I can barely see what typing.s

As far as Huck goes, I have no intention of voting for Huckablee.
Good night, I'm tired of retyping my mistakes as I can barely see the page and my fingers are working sporadically.

[PackerfanXD]

Do you guys think there is any possibility that Huckabee feels differently now about immigration then he used to 10 years ago? Rudy said that 911 changed the way he felt about it; said he finally saw it as a national security issue (which it is). Even McCain recently felt the heat and changed his stance.
Is it not possible to change your position based on new information and circumstances? Just throwing it out there...

[Pharmakon]

Well he's obviously settling. You can tell by the tone of his letter.
Sad really, I always liked the Minutemen.

[Dutch1]

Originally Posted by PackerfanXD

Do you guys think there is any possibility that Huckabee feels differently now about immigration then he used to 10 years ago? Rudy said that 911 changed the way he felt about it; said he finally saw it as a national security issue (which it is). Even McCain recently felt the heat and changed his stance.
Is it not possible to change your position based on new information and circumstances? Just throwing it out there...

Could it be he's saying it as thats what the people want and has no intention of doing anything but what the lobbiests and pac money want.

[AZXD]

Sure an individuals position can change. The question is why did it change. Are you after a vote, or is there a better reason for changing your mind? In the case of Huckabee it is my opinion that he is trolling for votes like everyone else. He talks tough on securing the borders and refusing amnesty to illegal immigrants, but he championed a bill in Arkansas that would have made illegal immigrants eligible for in-state tuition and scholarships.

So here's the basis of what he supports:
He says he opposes "amnesty", but that's just a word game. He supports something that millions of people in foreign countries will see as amnesty, and they'll try to come here. He championed a bill in Arkansas that would have made illegal immigrants eligible for in-state tuition and scholarships.
In 2006 space in an Arkansas government facility was leased for $1 a year to the Mexican government to establish the Mexican consulate until a permanent Mexican consulate facility could be built, at the expense of Arkansas citizens and corporations.
Hmmm, who's watch was that?
Yep, you guessed it Huckaflop to the rescue.


According to a press interview, Huckabee explained that there were two basic reasons his administration wanted the Mexican consulate office in Little Rock. "First, we wanted to accommodate the business that was increasing between Arkansas businesses and Mexican businesses," he said. "Second, if people were going to come to Arkansas, we wanted them to follow legal processes, rather than just be illegal. We wanted people to come to Arkansas and get the proper paper work and do things with a work permit and a visa. It's so much easier to do that if you have a consulate where people can go to get proper documentation, rather than just accommodating people illegally."
Think hard on those words. Sneak in and we'll help you legalize your status, if you can get to Arkansas.
Guilliani is a politicians politician. So I'll just leave him alone as a very bad choice. I mean have you heard anyone say anything good about Rudy?

As for McCain, he's probably the shortest timeframe flip-flopper running for office, and either changed his position because he's after a vote, or because he wants to retire in Arizona after we remove him from office.

It is pretty cool though, that we can use these guys to justify each others short-comings and inconsistent track records

911 changed a lot of peoples minds about national security, but the Huckster ................... IMO he's all that and more when it comes to immigration.

[PackerfanXD]

RE: Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee's "SAVE AMERICA PLAN"

Dear Americans,

Here is former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee’s Save America Plan that he has published on his web site at www.mikehuckabee.com The “Plan” addresses the more salient issues regarding the current out-of-control and un-enforced immigration laws. These words are Governor Huckabee’s written promise to the electorate. The “Plan” was copied from the Huckabee web site exactly as it appears.

Securing our borders must be our top priority and has reached the level of a national emergency.

I support the $3 billion the Senate has voted for border security. This money will train and deploy 23,000 more agents, add four drone planes, build 700 miles of fence and 300 miles of vehicle barriers, and put up 105 radar and camera towers. This money will turn "catch and release" into "catch and detain" of those entering illegally, and crack down on those who overstay their visas.

In this age of terror, immigration is not only an economic issue, but also a national security issue. Those caught trying to enter illegally must be detained, processed, and deported. As Governor, I ordered my state troopers to work with the Department of Homeland Security to arrest illegals and enforce federal immigration law.

I oppose and will never allow amnesty. I opposed the amnesty President Bush and Senator McCain tried to ram through Congress this summer, and opposed the misnamed DREAM Act, which would have put us on the slippery slope to amnesty for all.

I oppose and will not tolerate sanctuaries for illegals. The federal government must crack down on rogue cities that willfully undermine our economy and national security.

I oppose giving driver's licenses to illegals and supports legislation to prevent states from doing so. In 2005, I signed legislation that prevents illegals in Arkansas from getting driver's licenses.

I will stop punishing cities which try to enforce our laws and protect the economic well-being, physical safety, and quality of life of their citizens.

I oppose and will not tolerate employers who hire illegals. They must be punished with fines and penalties so large that they will see it is not worth the risk.

I oppose the economic integration of North America that would create open borders among the United States, Canada, and Mexico. I will never yield one iota or one inch of our sovereignty.

I will take our country back for those who belong here. No open borders, no amnesty, no sanctuary, no false Social Security numbers, no driver's licenses for illegals.

I know that securing our borders must be our top priority and has reached the level of a national emergency. I am as sick and tired as you are that it is harder for us to get on an airplane in our home town than it is for all these illegals to cross our international border unchallenged.

We cannot stem the tide of illegals until we turn the tide. Before you fix the damage to your house caused by a leaking roof, you have to stop the leak, which I am determined to do.

I supported the $3 billion Congress passed this summer for border security. This desperately-needed money will train and deploy 23,000 more agents, add four drone planes, build 700 miles of fence and 300 miles of vehicle barriers, and put up 105 radar and camera towers. This money will turn "catch and release" into "catch and detain" of those entering illegally and crack down on those who overstay their visas.

But where is this $3 billion? The President threatened to veto the bill it was part of! Now the Senate has again voted for this money as part of the Defense Bill. I will continue to fight until we get these funds.

In this age of terror, immigration is not only an economic issue, but also a national security issue. We must know who is coming into our country, where they are going, and why they are here. All those who are caught trying to enter illegally must be detained, processed, and deported. As Governor, I ordered my state troopers to work with the Department of Homeland Security to arrest illegals and enforce federal immigration law.

I oppose and will never allow amnesty. I passionately rejected the amnesty bill that President Bush and Sen. McCain tried to ram through Congress this summer after secret meetings of an under-the-radar cabal of amnesty-loving senators.

I opposed the misnamed DREAM Act, which was a nightmare because it would have put us on the slippery slope to amnesty for all. Because once we open that door even a crack, we'll never get it closed again.

I oppose and will not tolerate sanctuaries for illegals. The federal government must enforce our existing laws by cracking down on rogue cities and towns that willfully undermine our economy and our homeland security by giving benefits and protection to illegals. The consequences for illegal entry must be swift, certain, and uniform throughout our country.

I oppose giving driver's licenses to illegals, such as Governor Spitzer tried to do in New York. I support legislation that would prevent the states from granting this privilege to illegals. In 2005, I signed legislation that prevents illegals in Arkansas from getting driver's licenses.

I will stop punishing cities which are trying to enforce our laws. I will appoint judges who will uphold the law, not side with the ACLU against cities like Hazelton, Pennsylvania, which are trying to protect the economic well-being, physical safety, and quality of life of their citizens.

I will not tolerate employers who hire illegals - they must be punished by fines and penalties so large that they will understand it is not worth the risk. Once again, as with Hazelton, liberal judges are gumming up the works. Right now, a court in San Francisco -- Pelosiland - has delayed enforcement of the "no match" letters for Social Security numbers that the Department of Homeland Security will use to crack down on those who hire illegals. If illegals cannot find work, they will go back where they belong. I will do everything I can to hasten their trip home by denying them employment.

I strongly oppose the economic integration of North America that would have open borders among the United States, Canada, and Mexico. I know we must have closed and secure borders. I will never yield either one inch or one iota of our sovereignty. I will recognize no authority but our Constitution.

I will take our country back for those who belong here and those who are willing to play by the rules for the privilege to come here. No open borders, no amnesty, no sanctuary, no false Social Security numbers, no driver's licenses for illegals.

Cheers,

Jim Gilchrist, BAJ, BSBA, MBA, CPA - Founder and President

Jim Gilchrist's MINUTEMAN PROJECT, INC. (DBA The Minuteman Project)

- A multi-ethnic, immigration law enforcement advocacy group.
- Operating within the law to support enforcement of the law.
- The power of change through the power of peace.

MAILING ADDRESS FOR CORRESPONDENCE AND DONATIONS:

JIM GILCHRIST'S MINUTEMAN PROJECT, INC.
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JIM GILCHRIST, PRESIDENT
P.O. BOX 3944
LAGUNA HILLS, CA. 92654-3944

[ArmyGuy45]

Originally Posted by AZXD

I intended to do that for Armyguy when he was home, but schedule conflicts got in the way. However, if you make it to Phoenix, I'll extend you the same offer, and that's not a bribe. I like you too.

can i take a rain check for april?

and i like huck aslong as he does what he says he can.. but i dont think he will make it over paul

and whats the minuteman thing?

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by ArmyGuy45

can i take a rain check for april?

and i like huck aslong as he does what he says he can.. but i dont think he will make it over paul

and whats the minuteman thing?

Wow!...You have been gone for awhile!

http://www.minutemanhq.com/