(PV) An Open Letter to Ron Paul

[Judge]

The evidence is on his site and google....

First there were claims that Lew didn't know/wasn't friends with Paul - then I point out he was Paul's chief of staff. You know what - no apologies, just ya'll making the same stupid claims. I don't even respond to one poster's claims anymore, everyone knows they border on the idioicy and immaturity of a 15 year old. I've got better things to do.

I've said Lew never said he wasn't... if you want to prove that 'fact' wrong, then do it.

Sobran was fired from National Review for his anti-semetic comments... AGAIN, you can read thru his 1000's of articles and find out for yourself his views...

Don't blame me b/c you're ignorant and lazy, and content to stay that way.

Originally Posted by Etta Place

It takes more effort to find backup for statements that you feel are correct but don't have the facts at hand than it is to just throw things out there as fact when they are merely opinion - something Judge and others do here. Maybe that's why Judge accuses people of being anti-Semitic but refuses to provide evidence of it.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by Judge

The evidence is on his site and google....

First there were claims that Lew didn't know/wasn't friends with Paul - then I point out he was Paul's chief of staff. You know what - no apologies, just ya'll making the same stupid claims. I don't even respond to one poster's claims anymore, everyone knows they border on the idioicy and immaturity of a 15 year old. I've got better things to do.

I've said Lew never said he wasn't... if you want to prove that 'fact' wrong, then do it.

Sobran was fired from National Review for his anti-semetic comments... AGAIN, you can read thru his 1000's of articles and find out for yourself his views...

Don't blame me b/c you're ignorant and lazy, and content to stay that way.

Now who's calling people names?

That's not the way to debate, in my opinion. If you make a statement about something or someone that you allege is fact, it's not everyone else's job to try to go look up information to see if you're right. It's your job to say, "Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul are anti-Semitic, and this is why." I could say "George Bush is anti-Catholic." You could challenge me to provide evidence, and I could just tell you to go look up his speeches! That's a pretty ridiculous way to make a point.

Calling someone anti-Semitic is a very subjective thing anyway. Maybe when I read something by someone you consider anti-Semitic, I may not think they are.

[niteranger68]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Where have I done this? I have been challenged on some statements I have made here, in the Ahmadinejad at Columbia thread, and in one the other day where I was historically incorrect about the British in Ireland. Both times, I have admitted that I was mistaken.

In the thread the other day, I told Wombat13 that I had some points to make about some other things he said, but wasn't into responding at that point because someone else in the thread had been really insulting to me. I keep thinking about it so I may go back and try to find it.

These are the only instances I recall where I have been proven to be wrong, and I have admitted it. Maybe you can refresh my memory.

Etta, you do this all the time. All someone has to do is enter your member name in the search engine and read for themselves. Once you get yourself boxed in on one thread, you'll claim you don't have time to continue, but you'll show up on other existing threads or even start new ones the same day. It's the typical moving target strategy you use against all of us evil "neocons".

[Krackels]

Originally Posted by Judge

The evidence is on his site and google....

First there were claims that Lew didn't know/wasn't friends with Paul - then I point out he was Paul's chief of staff. You know what - no apologies, just ya'll making the same stupid claims. I don't even respond to one poster's claims anymore, everyone knows they border on the idioicy and immaturity of a 15 year old. I've got better things to do.

I've said Lew never said he wasn't... if you want to prove that 'fact' wrong, then do it.

Sobran was fired from National Review for his anti-semetic comments... AGAIN, you can read thru his 1000's of articles and find out for yourself his views...

Don't blame me b/c you're ignorant and lazy, and content to stay that way.

Unfortunately, I haven't had the free time to browse through every site to read and evaluate whether or not each person holds anti-semitic views.

I was kinda hoping that if you had a link handy you could save us some time. If that makes me lazy and ignorant and content to stay so then so be it because I really just wanted to save myself some leg work if I didn't have to do it.

I was always told to work smarter not harder.

[Judge]

What, Sobran being fired for it is not 'proof'? IF you did a quick google for sobran and Nazi, you'd see he's a regular speaker and featured writer for Institute for Historical Review, a well known neo-nazi site which denies the Holocust. If you'll look, the Presidential Campaign of Michael Badnarik has prominently linked to lewrockwell.com on its front page. One of Rockwell's writers argues homosexuals should be stoned (it's cheaper and the stones are reusable) - Gary North, who've I've posted other stuff about before.

Here's a quote from his stoning paper: (On Stoning By Government)
"The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan.

Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder. " (Gary North, The Sinai Strategy: Economics and the Ten Commandments (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1986), p. 123)



Go to Rockwell's site, read it... read how Roberts' compares Milosevic to A. Lincoln:

Milosevic was caught up in the post-Soviet era break-up of Yugoslavia. Nationalist forces broke up the Yugoslav federation. During 1991–92, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina seceded from Yugoslavia. Large Serbian minorities in Croatia and in Bosnia objected and claimed the identical right of self-determination to remain in the federation as Croats and Muslims claimed to leave it. Croatian and Bosnian Serbs organized and a war against secession began.
Milosevic could hardly remain a Serbian leader and not support the Serbs. Abraham Lincoln was canonized for invading the South to prevent its secession, but Milosevic was damned for trying to protect Yugoslavia’s territorial integrity. In the end Milosevic accepted secession. In 1995 Milosevic negotiated the Dayton Agreement which ended the war in Bosnia. According to the encyclopedia, Wikipedia, “Milosevic was credited in the West with being one of the pillars of Balkan peace.”

Rockwell may not come out and say it directly on his site, but he continually publishes and supports guys's who do.

Check out another of his authors: Sam Francis of the Council of Concerned Citizens. If the term "racist" doesn't come to your mind...

You may or may not agree on these 'labels', you may think homo's need to be stoned and that's not hateful. You may think Jews are to blame for every problem in your and America's existance and the terror inflicted on Israel is just....

I just call that attitude racist, anti-semitie b/c it's easier, most understand, and I get tired of having to google for those that won't look up the truth for themselves.

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Now who's calling people names?

That's not the way to debate, in my opinion. If you make a statement about something or someone that you allege is fact, it's not everyone else's job to try to go look up information to see if you're right. It's your job to say, "Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul are anti-Semitic, and this is why." I could say "George Bush is anti-Catholic." You could challenge me to provide evidence, and I could just tell you to go look up his speeches! That's a pretty ridiculous way to make a point.

Calling someone anti-Semitic is a very subjective thing anyway. Maybe when I read something by someone you consider anti-Semitic, I may not think they are.

[Judge]

That comment didn't apply to you, you do come on here and present a reasoned argument for your position and not mindless drivel...

See the above post... I've got to catch a plane so I'll be out of town for a few days - job interview.

I will be back.

Originally Posted by Krackels

Unfortunately, I haven't had the free time to browse through every site to read and evaluate whether or not each person holds anti-semitic views.

I was kinda hoping that if you had a link handy you could save us some time. If that makes me lazy and ignorant and content to stay so then so be it because I really just wanted to save myself some leg work if I didn't have to do it.

I was always told to work smarter not harder.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Judge

That comment didn't apply to you, you do come on here and present a reasoned argument for your position and not mindless drivel...

See the above post... I've got to catch a plane so I'll be out of town for a few days - job interview.

I will be back.

Are you auditioning for another TV show

[eric_t12]

Originally Posted by Judge

RockwellBush may not come out and say it directly on his sitein his speeches, but he continually publishes and supports guys's who do support beheadings, and rule completely undemocratically.

OMG, the bush family did business with Saudis for years and even got some of them out of the country after 9/11, and not only do they believe in beheading, they rule COMPLETELY un-democratically!

THEY EVEN SUPPORTED THE SUNNI INSURGENTS, and lied to undermine the iraqi government... that sounds like Iran and the Shiite... no accusations of financing terrorists for the saudis... just 'stern words'...

that means bush supports terror. he's not standing tough on them, and in fact worked with them for years, that means he's a terrorist supporter.

he supports bin laden's agenda! Traitor! Traitor! I call it like i see it! google it yourself and learn the truth, you lazy dolts

^^good impression?

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by Judge

That comment didn't apply to you, you do come on here and present a reasoned argument for your position and not mindless drivel...

See the above post... I've got to catch a plane so I'll be out of town for a few days - job interview.

I will be back.

Translation: "My parent's found out what I'm doing in the basement, and are pulling the plug on my computer for awhile".

[Son of Norway]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Are you auditioning for another TV show

Mall Ninja.