CNN on gun confiscation.

[bkelm18]

Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15

Oh, I would have given them something. It would have been hot and exiting a barrel at high velocity.

You are honestly willing to die for the 2nd amendment? Don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you. It's just that alot of people don't really sit down and think what they would do, honestly do, in that situation. Would I fight back? Maybe. It really depends on the circumstances. I don't think I would if my family were with me. Fighting for your rights is one thing, but being gunned down in front of your family by the cops/feds would be another. That being said, if I ever live in an area that would be prone to a "SHTF" situation, a lot of thought would be given to how I would store my firearms. They would be stored MUCH more discretely than if I lived in BFE. Possibly a hidden safe or room that only I or my wife would know about.

[cucamelsmd15]

Originally Posted by bkelm18

You are honestly willing to die for the 2nd amendment? Don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you. It's just that alot of people don't really sit down and think what they would do, honestly do, in that situation. Would I fight back? Maybe. It really depends on the circumstances. I don't think I would if my family were with me. Fighting for your rights is one thing, but being gunned down in front of your family by the cops/feds would be another. That being said, if I ever live in an area that would be prone to a "SHTF" situation, a lot of thought would be given to how I would store my firearms. They would be stored MUCH more discretely than if I lived in BFE. Possibly a hidden safe or room that only I or my wife would know about.

Second amendment secures all the rest. So, I take it youre ok with the government eroding your rights, as theyre currently doing now?

[bkelm18]

Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15

Second amendment secures all the rest. So, I take it youre ok with the government eroding your rights, as theyre currently doing now?

Don't ever recall saying that. I'm well aware what the 2nd amendment guarantees. I'm just not willing to be gunned down by the police in front of my family. If that makes me a sheep, so be it. I'm quite the believer in living to fight another day. If you care to re-read my post, I said it depends on the situation. If at the time I had no family or they were elsewhere, my reaction to the situation would be different.

[IHasanXD]

Originally Posted by bkelm18

You are honestly willing to die for the 2nd amendment? Don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you. It's just that alot of people don't really sit down and think what they would do, honestly do, in that situation. Would I fight back? Maybe. It really depends on the circumstances. I don't think I would if my family were with me. Fighting for your rights is one thing, but being gunned down in front of your family by the cops/feds would be another. That being said, if I ever live in an area that would be prone to a "SHTF" situation, a lot of thought would be given to how I would store my firearms. They would be stored MUCH more discretely than if I lived in BFE. Possibly a hidden safe or room that only I or my wife would know about.

Well if you give up your guns your chances of survival in such a SHTF situation goes down. I'd rather die defending mydelf and my family than die helpless. If enough people stood up to it, the morons in charge would have to change their tactics. Plus, I seriously doubt most police officers would fire on someone legally having a gun.
Or you could move to the great state of Texas where Texas law specifically states that governmental agents and agencies can not confiscate guns from lawful citizens during a disaster.

[Brickboy240]

Yes, did you notice how WE handeld ourselves a month after Hurricane Katrina, when Hurricane Rita hit...versus the chaos in New Orleans. Granted, we did not have as much damage or flooding, but you saw a totally different way everyone handled themselves during a disaster like a major hurricane.

Things wold have to degenerate far beyond Katrina before there was a door to door gun grab in this state. This is not the northeast or California...people would not stand for it and the law here knows it very well.

- Brickboy240

[cucamelsmd15]

Originally Posted by bkelm18

Don't ever recall saying that. I'm well aware what the 2nd amendment guarantees. I'm just not willing to be gunned down by the police in front of my family. If that makes me a sheep, so be it. I'm quite the believer in living to fight another day. If you care to re-read my post, I said it depends on the situation. If at the time I had no family or they were elsewhere, my reaction to the situation would be different.

Hmmm, so it seems to me that youre ok with the government denying all your rights unless its your 2A rights, is that about it?

Picture this: Youve just been declared a terrorist, and theyre going to cart you off to GitMo for some waterboarding. Remember, your rights to habeas corpus have been revoked. Also remember your forth amendment rights are also revoked. Now, what do you do? Remember, you dont want to fight in front of your family.

[AZXD]

Here ya go. The method and the madness.

National Guard Confiscating Guns in New Orleans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5PC7z79-8

NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4&NR=1

[bkelm18]

Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15

Hmmm, so it seems to me that youre ok with the government denying all your rights unless its your 2A rights, is that about it?

Picture this: Youve just been declared a terrorist, and theyre going to cart you off to GitMo for some waterboarding. Remember, your rights to habeas corpus have been revoked. Also remember your forth amendment rights are also revoked. Now, what do you do? Remember, you dont want to fight in front of your family.

Ok, you're obvisouly not reading anything I'm saying. No one was declared a terrorist and carted off to GitMo after Katrina. I'm speaking of a Katrina type incident. Who said I didn't want to fight in front of my family? I would die for them in an instant. I'm just not going to get murdered by the police right in front of my children. Again, I'm speaking of a Katrina style incident. In other scenarios I would react accordingly. So lets just agree to disagree because you don't know me or what I would do any any number of different situations. If you have a problem with any of that, kindly shove it up your a** .

[rev-arb]

The NRA was really publicizing this earlier. However it is time to continue to stand up.

[cucamelsmd15]

Originally Posted by bkelm18

Ok, you're obvisouly not reading anything I'm saying. No one was declared a terrorist and carted off to GitMo after Katrina. I'm speaking of a Katrina type incident. Who said I didn't want to fight in front of my family? I would die for them in an instant. I'm just not going to get murdered by the police right in front of my children. Again, I'm speaking of a Katrina style incident. In other scenarios I would react accordingly. So lets just agree to disagree because you don't know me or what I would do any any number of different situations. If you have a problem with any of that, kindly shove it up your a** .

Maybe youre not getting it... I didnt say anyone was declared a terrorist. What I did say is that youre losing your rights, and you said:

I'm just not willing to be gunned down by the police in front of my family. If that makes me a sheep, so be it. I'm quite the believer in living to fight another day. If you care to re-read my post, I said it depends on the situation.

It DOES NOT depend on the situation, PERIOD.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-Ben Franklin