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**XDAndMe** · 10-04-2007, 02:15 PM

A friend of mine just called me and told me something that happened in class today which was completely unexpected, but pleasantly so. He's taking a criminology class and the professor is ex-LEO. I've never heard of this before, but a university professor actually encouraged a class of students to buy a gun and look into getting a concealed-carry permit!

Thought I had to share...

rodder · 10-04-2007, 02:16 PM

this state rocks.

EDIT: oh wait, is your friend going to school at a PA university?

Gravel · 10-04-2007, 02:17 PM

Nice!!

cougar_guy04 · 10-04-2007, 02:20 PM

Hmmm . . . maybe I should look into applying to New Holland after all. Sounds like a fairly reasonable state outside of the major metropolitan areas.

**XDAndMe** · 10-04-2007, 02:34 PM

Well this university is smack in the heart of Philadelphia... it doesn't get any more metro.

I think the conversation started because a student was giving a presentation and brought up gun control as a solution. The prof told the class why gun control doesn't work and according to what my friend told me, he suggested to them to buy a gun and possibly carry, giving them reasons why they should.

He also told them that the shooting at Virginia Tech got out of hand because the students dispersed instead of grouping together to ambush the attacker.

I hope this prof doesn't lose his job.

**KingAirDriver** · 10-04-2007, 02:37 PM

That's a class worth taking. +1 for the Prof!!

(Ditto, hope he doesn't lose his job!)

**Bycyclist** · 10-04-2007, 02:39 PM

wow - unheard of. but nice to see there are still level-headed profs teaching our young people

GatGatGat · 10-04-2007, 03:02 PM

i got one up.. my CJ prof was an ex state trooper and told us.... "if anyone ever comes in your house and you make the split second decision to shoot them, A. Make sure they die, B make sure they are found with a weapon. anything deadly, your finger prints are all over it anyway, you could never be blamed for anything, their life is already over, doesnt mean yours has to be"
im sure alot of people have other opinions, but i believe in this 100%. they made the choice to break into my home. if i have a gun, i intend to use it. its not for show, its not to play with. its to protect with. there are no "ill just scare him"

**XDAndMe** · 10-04-2007, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodder

EDIT: oh wait, is your friend going to school at a PA university?

If by that you mean a university in the state of PA, then yes. It's not a community college. Big name, just short of ivy league... if we had a football team, everyone would know us. We have a basketball team. Their big thing is engineering, but they are involved in many areas including medicine, law, business and more.

**Ed Ely** · 10-04-2007, 04:21 PM

The Castle Doctrine has changed the thinking somewhat
on this. If fact, it has changed the mindset completely.

Ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatGatGat

i got one up.. my CJ prof was an ex state trooper and told us.... "if anyone ever comes in your house and you make the split second decision to shoot them, A. Make sure they die, B make sure they are found with a weapon. anything deadly, your finger prints are all over it anyway, you could never be blamed for anything, their life is already over, doesnt mean yours has to be"
im sure alot of people have other opinions, but i believe in this 100%. they made the choice to break into my home. if i have a gun, i intend to use it. its not for show, its not to play with. its to protect with. there are no "ill just scare him"

10-04-2007, 02:15 PM	#1
XDAndMe XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PA, USA Posts: 3,402	unexpected lecture A friend of mine just called me and told me something that happened in class today which was completely unexpected, but pleasantly so. He's taking a criminology class and the professor is ex-LEO. I've never heard of this before, but a university professor actually encouraged a class of students to buy a gun and look into getting a concealed-carry permit! Thought I had to share...

10-04-2007, 02:17 PM	#3
Gravel XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 2,008	Nice!! __________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither. McCain/Palin '08

10-04-2007, 02:20 PM	#4
cougar_guy04 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brevard Co., FL Posts: 1,705	Hmmm . . . maybe I should look into applying to New Holland after all. Sounds like a fairly reasonable state outside of the major metropolitan areas. __________________ "I'm not a nerd, I'm a jock that's too cool for sports!" - Bart Simpson Indiana resident? Want to connect with other Hoosier gun owners? Click here.

10-04-2007, 02:37 PM	#6
KingAirDriver XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: FL230 and KS Posts: 1,330	That's a class worth taking. +1 for the Prof!! (Ditto, hope he doesn't lose his job!) __________________ "When life's on the line, we're in the air." Freight Dogs - Order of the Sleepless Knights.

10-04-2007, 02:39 PM	#7
Bycyclist XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NorCaliforneeya Posts: 1,824	wow - unheard of. but nice to see there are still level-headed profs teaching our young people __________________ =============================================== BYcyclist - the worst day on a ride (or at the range) is better than the best day in the office ===============================================

10-04-2007, 02:16 PM	#2
rodder XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 660	this state rocks. EDIT: oh wait, is your friend going to school at a PA university?

10-04-2007, 02:34 PM	#5
XDAndMe XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PA, USA Posts: 3,402	Well this university is smack in the heart of Philadelphia... it doesn't get any more metro. I think the conversation started because a student was giving a presentation and brought up gun control as a solution. The prof told the class why gun control doesn't work and according to what my friend told me, he suggested to them to buy a gun and possibly carry, giving them reasons why they should. He also told them that the shooting at Virginia Tech got out of hand because the students dispersed instead of grouping together to ambush the attacker. I hope this prof doesn't lose his job.

10-04-2007, 03:02 PM	#8
GatGatGat XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 191	i got one up.. my CJ prof was an ex state trooper and told us.... "if anyone ever comes in your house and you make the split second decision to shoot them, A. Make sure they die, B make sure they are found with a weapon. anything deadly, your finger prints are all over it anyway, you could never be blamed for anything, their life is already over, doesnt mean yours has to be" im sure alot of people have other opinions, but i believe in this 100%. they made the choice to break into my home. if i have a gun, i intend to use it. its not for show, its not to play with. its to protect with. there are no "ill just scare him" __________________ Ruger 10-22 New England Firearms 20G Ruger P95 9mm Henry .22 rifle Winchester 77 .22 rifle High Point 995 9mm Tac Carbine Remington 710 .30-06 Mossberg 500a Tac 12G Bushmaster XM15 E2S A3 AR-15 Remington 1859 Buffalo (long Barrel) Colt 1860 Army H&R 9 shot .22 revolver 1860 Springfield Flintlock Springfield XD9 OD Green

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