Rapist to get castrated in Florida

[robinsre]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

Maybe I'm not making myself clear and maybe you guys just chose to ignore my whole point about the Duke fiasco. The system isn't perfect, people lie, women can and will lie, and innocent people might die. Rape isn't as clear cut as murder. It can basically fall down to his word against hers.

No you are making yourself clear. The system is not perfect...but that's no reason to let criminals roam free...thinking that MAYBE one might be wrongfully convicted.

Yes...the duke case was a fiasco...but look what happened. It was eventually aired out and the offending prosecutor lost his job (and IIRC was brought up on criminal charges himself).

The answer to false convictions is NOT reducing penalty...it is VERY close scrutiny during investigation and trial, maintaining the "reasonable doubt" clause in the mind of jurors, and penalties for those who drudge up fake charges.

[cjive134]

I wonder what good this is going to do. He is a predator, and as such, will continue to want to seek out peeple to dominate. So, he can't get an erection. He can still commit a multitude of harmful acts.

I'm not for the death penalty, but life for these people is what they deserve. It would seem that they are "uncurable" so they should be kept away from society. Same goes for kiddie rapers. If you need to keep an eye on these guys then keep them in jail. screw this nonsense about registering with the local police.

[robinsre]

Originally Posted by cjive134

I'm not for the death penalty, but life for these people is what they deserve.

This I can understand. Some people have reservations about taking a human life under any situation. Some folks have moral or religious opposition to it.

I for one, do not. I feel termination of certain criminals is necessary for society to work properly. However...I don't have all the answers, so I'm not going to turn this into a debate about the death penalty.

[jeepinbanditrider]

Originally Posted by cjive134

I wonder what good this is going to do. He is a predator, and as such, will continue to want to seek out peeple to dominate. So, he can't get an erection. He can still commit a multitude of harmful acts.

I'm not for the death penalty, but life for these people is what they deserve. It would seem that they are "uncurable" so they should be kept away from society. Same goes for kiddie rapers. If you need to keep an eye on these guys then keep them in jail. screw this nonsense about registering with the local police.

What happens when they run out of spaces to put these guys? The whole time they exist in that state they are a leach on society. You, me and the guy next door all pay taxes and those taxes go to pay for them to get a bed, hot food, and free medical and dental care.

Are you going to allow them to build a jail/prison in your backyard so they can house them?

[wombat13]

Originally Posted by jeepinbanditrider

What happens when they run out of spaces to put these guys? The whole time they exist in that state they are a leach on society. You, me and the guy next door all pay taxes and those taxes go to pay for them to get a bed, hot food, and free medical and dental care.

Are you going to allow them to build a jail/prison in your backyard so they can house them?

Considering all of the truly ridiculous crap that our taxes pay for, I really don't mind paying to house criminals for life. I also don't mind paying to execute them, if warranted, even if it costs more than life imprisonment (which is what some anti-death penalty folks maintain). Bottome line, if I ever found myself on the wrong side of the law, I would hope my punishment would hinge on a number of factors, cost not being one of them.

[Powerman]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

Heh, I'm obviously from a different cut from you guys. Remember the Duke rape case where the prosecutor maliciously prosecuted the Duke students while withholding vital evidence that would have cleared them? The justice system isn't fool proof. At least with life imprison, or death row, your usually on hold for a few years. If DNA evidence comes along that clears your name or a witness recants their testimony, you can be set free.

A vengeful girlfriend or someone with an agenda can claim rape against a man. In this case, your usually guilty until proven innocent. The punishment should fit the crime. While I believe that rapist should be locked up, I think castration falls under cruel and unusual and I wholeheartedly believe that the punishment should fit the crime. A death sentence for a rape is excessive and barbaric. There seems to be a bunch of folks that think death is the answer for a whole slew of things. It just makes you sound ignorant.

An eye for an eye, isn't that what the Bible said?

He is volunteering for this. Obviously he is guilty. Many rapists and molesters have asked for this because they want to stop. I have zero problem with it except that it should of happened sooner.

[rodder]

they should cut off his wanker too.

[jkswiss]

Originally Posted by robinsre

No you are making yourself clear. The system is not perfect...but that's no reason to let criminals roam free...thinking that MAYBE one might be wrongfully convicted.

I said nothing about criminals roaming around free. I know that the castration is completely voluntary, I'm just worried that its a slippery slope.
I don't believe in death for rape. Maybe a 10-20 year prison sentence but a life isn't that cheap to me. In the case of murder, yes, I wholeheartedly support the death penalty.

As far as cost effectiveness goes, life imprison without the possibility of parole cost less than a sentence of death. May sound strange but there is a longer, drawn out legal process involved with a death sentence along with often decades long prison time while on death row.

[cjive134]

Originally Posted by jeepinbanditrider

What happens when they run out of spaces to put these guys? The whole time they exist in that state they are a leach on society. You, me and the guy next door all pay taxes and those taxes go to pay for them to get a bed, hot food, and free medical and dental care.

Are you going to allow them to build a jail/prison in your backyard so they can house them?

Well, I'm like Robinsre, I certainly don't have all the answers. Whether, you are putting them to death or locking them up, my point was only that they don't belong in society. If he is still a menace to society I think he should stay in prison, not report to the local PD or under go castration. "some men you just can't reach"

[tomfoolery]

im all for the castration of this scumbag....but what does that solve? taking his balls doesnt mean he cant do it again! my dog doesn have balls but i dare you to lay on the floor after you get him all wound up.

there has to be a better solution......something more swift and aggressive.