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dasanii19 · 09-06-2007, 12:35 PM

I may be a little paranoid but only because ive been seeing some pretty harsh scams lately on other forums and I just don't want to fall victim(knock on wood).

But here's the deal, I have a deal locked up right now pending my payment but before hand id like to verify that this guy is who he says he is, James E. Pitts. He says he's a LEO for Rosewell, GA Police Dept. Now, would I be out of place to call this dept. to verify this guy is indeed employed with them?

No red flags have went up or anything that I've noticed except for maybe the price that im paying, ($465 shipped for a Remington 870P with a 2 shot mag extension and Wilson track lock tritium night sights, tac star 4 shot side saddle) and that he would prefer not going through his FFL to ship the shotgun to cut down on costs, which is understandable. I've always lived by "if its to good to be true it usually isn't" but then again he may be a LEO that gets LEO deals and is just passing it on. I don't know... Do you think I should just leave out the call to the dept. and maybe just get his land line home phone # and home address and call it good?

Am I being paranoid? Or just smart? Your thoughts?

sloopy70 · 09-06-2007, 12:49 PM

well... how is he gonna ship it to you without using an ffl??? isn't that a federal crime or somethin...

cjive134 · 09-06-2007, 01:02 PM

Yeah, I was under the impression that long guns could be shipped within a person's state without FFL, but to ship out of state requres FFL

**NC Dave** · 09-06-2007, 01:04 PM

Yes. It is.

The only way I can get something delivered directly to me is if it is C&R eligible and it went through a purchase on my 03 license. Everything else MUST go through FFL/FFL if it crosses state lines.

Krackels · 09-06-2007, 01:11 PM

No, you wouldn't be out of place...

You could call his department and ask if he's there, or ask when the best time is to reach him. If he is then you could speak with him over the phone, if he doesn't work there then that'll be your red flag.

Personally, I prefer talking to someone over the phone. Many times you can tell more about a person over the phone than you can through well constructed and edited emails.

Krackels · 09-06-2007, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloopy70

well... how is he gonna ship it to you without using an ffl??? isn't that a federal crime or somethin...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjive134

Yeah, I was under the impression that long guns could be shipped within a person's state without FFL, but to ship out of state requres FFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC Dave

Yes. It is.

The only way I can get something delivered directly to me is if it is C&R eligible and it went through a purchase on my 03 license. Everything else MUST go through FFL/FFL if it crosses state lines.

That's a good question. I'd insist that he send it through an FFL. As far as I know it always has to be sent through an FFL except for when its being sent out for repair or service.

wombat13 · 09-06-2007, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC Dave

Yes. It is.

The only way I can get something delivered directly to me is if it is C&R eligible and it went through a purchase on my 03 license. Everything else MUST go through FFL/FFL if it crosses state lines.

What does C&R eligible mean? Another exception is that the CMP can ship long guns directly to purchasers.

HTOWN stunna · 09-06-2007, 01:15 PM

C&R= Curio and Relic ie mosin nagant, sks, cz-52, etc

dasanii19 · 09-06-2007, 01:23 PM

Heres exactly what was said :

Me:
'Great!! So will you be shipping the shotgun through your FFL? If so, I will need your FFL's fax number so my FFL can prove he is licenced as well as give his shipping address.:

His reply:
"Would prefer a private ship..and I will include my POlice ID and copy of my DL. It cost me $25 additional + shipping for FFL transfer. If you can scan and EMAIL your FFL info thats all I need."

nickb · 09-06-2007, 01:27 PM

Whether it's legal or not is an issue. And, he's willing to ship a shotgun to ANYONE with $. Real freaking nice.

I wouldn't trust someone like that as far as I can spit.

Never mind, he's sending it to your FFL? Get his ID first.

09-06-2007, 12:35 PM	#1
dasanii19 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 3,518	Researching someone before a purchase I may be a little paranoid but only because ive been seeing some pretty harsh scams lately on other forums and I just don't want to fall victim(knock on wood). But here's the deal, I have a deal locked up right now pending my payment but before hand id like to verify that this guy is who he says he is, James E. Pitts. He says he's a LEO for Rosewell, GA Police Dept. Now, would I be out of place to call this dept. to verify this guy is indeed employed with them? No red flags have went up or anything that I've noticed except for maybe the price that im paying, ($465 shipped for a Remington 870P with a 2 shot mag extension and Wilson track lock tritium night sights, tac star 4 shot side saddle) and that he would prefer not going through his FFL to ship the shotgun to cut down on costs, which is understandable. I've always lived by "if its to good to be true it usually isn't" but then again he may be a LEO that gets LEO deals and is just passing it on. I don't know... Do you think I should just leave out the call to the dept. and maybe just get his land line home phone # and home address and call it good? Am I being paranoid? Or just smart? Your thoughts? __________________ MY NAME IS SUE!!! HOW DO YOU DO!!! "I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it." Last edited by dasanii19; 09-20-2007 at 12:12 PM.

09-06-2007, 12:49 PM	#2
sloopy70 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southwest Louisiana Posts: 1,121	well... how is he gonna ship it to you without using an ffl??? isn't that a federal crime or somethin... __________________ L. J. Joshlin USPSA Range Officer (R.O.) USPSA #A58364 Buckmark UDX Plus Springfield XD-9 10,500 rounds failure free Ithica 12Ga. Ultralight - Gold Trigger Edition Piney Woods Action Shooters sloopy70653@yahoo.com

09-06-2007, 01:02 PM	#3
cjive134 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 1,525	Yeah, I was under the impression that long guns could be shipped within a person's state without FFL, but to ship out of state requres FFL __________________ "Don't laugh at me. I was once like you." - homer simpson

09-06-2007, 01:04 PM	#4
NC Dave XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,397	Yes. It is. The only way I can get something delivered directly to me is if it is C&R eligible and it went through a purchase on my 03 license. Everything else MUST go through FFL/FFL if it crosses state lines. __________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Instructor

09-06-2007, 01:11 PM	#5
Krackels XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 18,992 Blog Entries: 5	No, you wouldn't be out of place... You could call his department and ask if he's there, or ask when the best time is to reach him. If he is then you could speak with him over the phone, if he doesn't work there then that'll be your red flag. Personally, I prefer talking to someone over the phone. Many times you can tell more about a person over the phone than you can through well constructed and edited emails. __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin America's Third Parties --- Duping the Foolish and Idealistic since 1832. PA Roll Call .................... My Blog

09-06-2007, 01:15 PM	#8
HTOWN stunna XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine Texas Posts: 1,532	C&R= Curio and Relic ie mosin nagant, sks, cz-52, etc __________________ The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist. - George Bernard Shaw

09-06-2007, 01:23 PM	#9
dasanii19 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 3,518	Heres exactly what was said : Me: 'Great!! So will you be shipping the shotgun through your FFL? If so, I will need your FFL's fax number so my FFL can prove he is licenced as well as give his shipping address.: His reply: "Would prefer a private ship..and I will include my POlice ID and copy of my DL. It cost me $25 additional + shipping for FFL transfer. If you can scan and EMAIL your FFL info thats all I need." __________________ MY NAME IS SUE!!! HOW DO YOU DO!!! "I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it."

09-06-2007, 01:27 PM	#10
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,343	Whether it's legal or not is an issue. And, he's willing to ship a shotgun to ANYONE with $. Real freaking nice. I wouldn't trust someone like that as far as I can spit. Never mind, he's sending it to your FFL? Get his ID first. __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

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