Senator Larry Craig(R) Arrested(PV kinda)

[sloan1919]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

The issue isn't that he's gay. The issue at hand is that Republicans are suppose to be the ones with the conservative values and such. No gay marriage, no abortion, Creationism and such.
Gay equals Bad in the Republican party.
If you were a gay politician, wouldn't it make more sense to align yourself with the more liberal party?

No it doesn't, not everyone is 'one issue' a lot of us here are but there are sometimes more important things than one or two issues. True enough he was secretly fruity but his job was to represent the views of his constituents not his own fruity agenda. And clearly he did this well.

Originally Posted by jkswiss

My position is very clear,
Anybody but Bush.
That is all.

What a very well thought out and logical position. Glad to see you spent some time thinking it through.

I'm a member of the GOP and I am not gay, nor do I watch gay porn.

[XD45inAZ]

Originally Posted by sloan1919

No it doesn't, not everyone is 'one issue' a lot of us here are but there are sometimes more important things than one or two issues. True enough he was secretly fruity but his job was to represent the views of his constituents not his own fruity agenda. And clearly he did this well.


What a very well thought out and logical position. Glad to see you spent some time thinking it through.

I'm a member of the GOP and I am not gay, nor do I watch gay porn.

Hey hey hey, gay porn is cool as long as both chicks are hot

[jdavionic]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

jdavionic, if you have some beef with me, just come out and say it.

My position is very clear,
Anybody but Bush.
That is all.

I think the well-thought out reply sums up my only beef with you. Apparently your wit hasn't been missed by others either.

I have no issues with anyone taking a stance one way or another, provided it is their stance. I do have problems with mindless attacks by silly parrots. We've got folks that just wait to pounce with their party agenda. Then when questioned or confronted, they sit there with one thumb in their mouth and the other up their posterior waiting for someone to yell "switch". Okay then..."SWITCH"

And with respect to other posts that cite family values, etc, I believe there's an infamous bd post that was titled something like "Republican Gayness" that has enough debate on the issue to suffice for an eternity. Next...

[cmcarlile]

The gay part pf the story doesn't enter into it for me. Bottom line, a representative has committed a crime. This is no different than any other representative breaking the law. He should be dealt with accordingly.

As far as this being a Republican vs. Democrat issue, that is just ignorant and silly. These are all people with weaknesses, perversions, temptations, and hypocrisies that extend beyond their party boundaries. An "R" or "D" behind a name says nothing about the man.

[cucamelsmd15]

Speaking of R and D, are we going to start taking bets as to when Faux News reports him as a Democrat and not a Republican?

[scurtis_34471]

The problem is that Conservative somehow came to mean Religious. True Conservate values recognize that the government has no business in the religious morality business. If a behavior is not harming others then it should be permitted, regardless of whether or not it is socially or religiously acceptable.

[tenring]

what a gay thread

[Brickboy240]

True.

I am more of an economic conservative and could care less about someone's sexual orientation or tastes. I could care less if gays get married or not, either.

However, if an elected official does something illegal or practices his/ger fetishes in front of children or WITH children...yes...I have a VERY big problem with that. Having no problems with homosexual activity does not make one deviod of any morals, you know.

- brickboy240

[sloan1919]

Originally Posted by XD45inAZ

Hey hey hey, gay porn is cool as long as both chicks are hot

HA! Maybe I should 'rethink my position' on gay porn as long as it meets the above criteria!

[Delija]

Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15

Speaking of R and D, are we going to start taking bets as to when Faux News reports him as a Democrat and not a Republican?

lol....now that's funny!!! Twisted, sad, but still funny. The truth hurts I suppose.

Just last month, a Florida State Rep (Robert Allen) was arrested for offering an undercover cop money to let him perform a homosexual sex act on the cop in the men's room at a park in his district. In handcuffs, he asked the police if it would help if he told them he was a state legislator. LOL....

The Mark Foley types do seem to be overwhelmingly Republicans. Bringing up Barney Frank is irrelevant. Being gay isn't anything like being a child molester or any kind of criminal.

Being a hypocrite regarding homosexual activity and particularly criminal activity involving minors......heading up committees and making speeches about the very perversions these people participate in does indeed seem to be heavily dominated by self described "conservative moral and religious" Republicans.

This isn't political mudslinging...it's just the way it is.

Here's a quick little reference (for what it's worth....which I'm sure will be zero to those whose minds are closed to what they don't wish to acknowledge):

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Examp...n_moral_values

and another:

http://www.intoxination.net/node/4200

I don't know what it is...are the Democrats just less sexually repressed?

Gay is one thing. Criminal activity is something else entirely. And yes, it does certainly appear that the Republican lawmakers seem to be have near exclusivity when it comes to this stuff (as far as politicians and politically aligned religious spokesmen go).

I fully expect to hear a few Clinton references in response to this. But did Clinton ever make speeches condemning sex between adults? Did he set himself up on any kind of 'higher moral ground' and tell us of the fire and brimstone that awaits men in hell that commit adultery with pudgy young interns?

Maybe we are far enough along in time (10 years after...my how time flies) that instead of Bill Clinon, we'll hear how and why it was Hillary's fault. LOL.

The only sure thing is that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter will have explanations that will make this all the fault of 'liberals".

Can't wait to hear the logic. It will have something to do with how they "hate America", but beyond that, I couldn't begin to guess.

Peace,
D.