More poor mis-understood pit bulls. Must be the owner

[BEEFCAKE-NMCB1]

Originally Posted by XD45inAZ

The dogs were clearly unbalanced and definitely in the red zone. I blame the owners just like I would blame the owner of a gun for murdering someone not the gun itself. "they were such good dogs" doesn't mean crap. So many people let their dogs assume dominant roles in the home and because the dog comes when called and licks their faces it is assumed "they are good dogs".

No no, if the gun jumped over the fence and forced its way into someones house and shot them while they slept then I most definitely would blame the gun.The owner of the dog didn't pull a trigger on the dogs or sick them on a sleeping lady it was the dog.

[Pinedawg]

It's the owner's fault, not the dog's.
Having owned labs for 13 years, I can say Ive seen some that I wouldn't get close to ( especially Chesapeake's).
They all have their moments.
The pit bull gets a bad rap because they get the press.
As many people have been bitten by other breeds, you just don't hear it.
For a while it was Doberman's, then Shepards and Rotty's, then Chows, now Pit Bulls and Presa Canarios.
Do you own a gun? Gun owners are all violent people too right?

[SpringfieldXD.40]

Originally Posted by BEEFCAKE-NMCB1

No no, if the gun jumped over the fence and forced its way into someones house and shot them while they slept then I most definitely would blame the gun.The owner of the dog didn't pull a trigger on the dogs or sick them on a sleeping lady it was the dog.

However if the gun went off and ended up killing someone due to the owner's lack of propper maintenance who would you blame then?

[BEEFCAKE-NMCB1]

Originally Posted by SpringfieldXD.40

Just something to think about: Pit Bulls are not naturally (genetically) aggressive towards people. Aggressive dogs wouldn't have worked well in the pit.

If it is not natural for this dog to behave this way then why does it happen?

So pits were breed for a hundred years to hurt other dogs but they will draw the line when it comes to people. I hate to say it but they may be getting women and children mixed up with other dogs then..

[SpringfieldXD.40]

Originally Posted by Pinedawg

It's the owner's fault, not the dog's.
Having owned labs for 13 years, I can say Ive seen some that I wouldn't get close to ( especially Chesapeake's).
They all have their moments.
The pit bull gets a bad rap because they get the press.
As many people have been bitten by other breeds, you just don't hear it.
For a while it was Doberman's, then Shepards and Rotty's, then Chows, now Pit Bulls and Presa Canarios.
Do you own a gun? Gun owners are all violent people too right?

+1,000,000

[SpringfieldXD.40]

Originally Posted by BEEFCAKE-NMCB1

So pits were breed for a hundred years to hurt other dogs but they will draw the line when it comes to people. I hate to say it but they may be getting women and children mixed up with other dogs then..

That is exactly what they were bred to do: The handlers were in the pits with the dogs...a dog that was aggreassive towards humans was handled the same way you would handle one *BANG*

[XD45inAZ]

Originally Posted by BEEFCAKE-NMCB1

Oh ya tons of labs breaking down doors dragging people out of bed. I guess every owner of every other breed just trains their dogs better than Pit Bull owners...because if you didn't train a lab or chow properly its probably certain death for anyone around the dogs.

Dogs are simple creatures. Aggressive behavior, no matter how small can be reinforced...some breeds easier than others. It is all in the training and the owner's position in the pack. Most owners let the dog be dominant and this can encourage aggressive tendencies in some breeds. If these dogs have a surplus of energy from being cooped up in the house all day they must release it...probably explains why the woman and her dog were attacked. Nature took over.

[BEEFCAKE-NMCB1]

Originally Posted by Pinedawg

It's the owner's fault, not the dog's.
Having owned labs for 13 years, I can say Ive seen some that I wouldn't get close to ( especially Chesapeake's).
They all have their moments.
The pit bull gets a bad rap because they get the press.
As many people have been bitten by other breeds, you just don't hear it.
For a while it was Doberman's, then Shepards and Rotty's, then Chows, now Pit Bulls and Presa Canarios.
Do you own a gun? Gun owners are all violent people too right?

When ever in the last 15 years has Dobermans been dominantly in the news for unprovoked deaths and mauling?????????I missed that.

[SpringfieldXD.40]

Originally Posted by BEEFCAKE-NMCB1

So pits were breed for a hundred years to hurt other dogs but they will draw the line when it comes to people. I hate to say it but they may be getting women and children mixed up with other dogs then..

inbreeding and a lack of training can lead to unexpected consequences

[SpringfieldXD.40]

Originally Posted by SpringfieldXD.40

However if the gun went off and ended up killing someone due to the owner's lack of propper maintenance who would you blame then?