More poor mis-understood pit bulls. Must be the owner

[turbosupra1313]

Originally Posted by xd4life

I agree that a dog attacking a child is bad thing, Unless that child played a role in abusing or tormenting the animal. If so then well the kid will learn not to do that again wont it. Just like touching a hot stove, or touching a cactus.

You experience with that dog does not tell what conditions that dog lived under, was he proper cared for, By proper care I don't mean fed and watered, Was the dog exercised? Did the dog have positive human contact? If not then you cannot expect the dog to not be aggressive. Take the pitbull out of the equation and in it's place put any other same size breed in under the same situation and you will get similar results.

Some dogs that are aggressive cannot be turned around, But to kill a dog due the fact that it mis treated, abused, tormented by a human being is absurd. If you want to go that route, I say that the first time someone attacks another human, we go ahead kill them, wether it be a playground fight, a bar fight, sexuall assault whatever no limitations. That way we can eliminate aggressive people...



As fat as these stats are concerned, Take all of them with a grain of salt. You can take any stats you want and depending on where you collect your info depends on your outcome. Kinda like political stats, The same poll taken in the South as on in the North will produce different results. and you can then publish which ever favors your stance more.

we share the same points my friend. im sure you read my post, +10000 brother

[Devil Dawg]

Originally Posted by xd4life

I agree that a dog attacking a child is bad thing, Unless that child played a role in abusing or tormenting the animal. If so then well the kid will learn not to do that again wont it. Just like touching a hot stove, or touching a cactus.

I can take this with a grain of salt. Neighborhood kids poking through fence, as long as it is a nip or quick bite I would err on the side of dog. Little kids growing up with dog in house, and dog has been around kids all it's life...dead dog.

Originally Posted by xd4life

You experience with that dog does not tell what conditions that dog lived under, was he proper cared for, By proper care I don't mean fed and watered, Was the dog exercised? Did the dog have positive human contact? If not then you cannot expect the dog to not be aggressive. Take the pitbull out of the equation and in it's place put any other same size breed in under the same situation and you will get similar results.

This pair was a mother/son and very weel taken care of. They were usually docile enough and kids never feared them. One day they just snapped. Not sure why. heat stress as referred to earlier could not have been an issue as we always had heat. West Texas. I am gonna have to agree to disagree here.

Originally Posted by xd4life

Some dogs that are aggressive cannot be turned around, But to kill a dog due the fact that it mis treated, abused, tormented by a human being is absurd. If you want to go that route, I say that the first time someone attacks another human, we go ahead kill them, wether it be a playground fight, a bar fight, sexuall assault whatever no limitations. That way we can eliminate aggressive people...

I am 95% with you on this one. I am all for putting a human down for some of these offenses. I do live in Texas, where we do have a drive-thru death penalty.

Originally Posted by xd4life

As fat as these stats are concerned, Take all of them with a grain of salt. You can take any stats you want and depending on where you collect your info depends on your outcome. Kinda like political stats, The same poll taken in the South as on in the North will produce different results. and you can then publish which ever favors your stance more.

These results have been found on the internet and as such are suspect at best. it would depend on who did the testing. 100% with you on this one.


Side note. I am glad you were able to come back once you cooled off. i noticed you getting a little hot there. I take some of the blame for that.

[LMTD]

when they hump your leg, you kick the poodle, but you let the pit finish.

[chupacabrachus]

Originally Posted by xd4life

.....As fat as these stats are concerned, Take all of them with a grain of salt. You can take any stats you want and depending on where you collect your info depends on your outcome....

"Statisticians use stats like a drunkard uses a street lamp, for support rather than illumination."

[xd4life]

Originally Posted by Devil Dawg

I can take this with a grain of salt. Neighborhood kids poking through fence, as long as it is a nip or quick bite I would err on the side of dog. Little kids growing up with dog in house, and dog has been around kids all it's life...dead dog.



This pair was a mother/son and very weel taken care of. They were usually docile enough and kids never feared them. One day they just snapped. Not sure why. heat stress as referred to earlier could not have been an issue as we always had heat. West Texas. I am gonna have to agree to disagree here.



I am 95% with you on this one. I am all for putting a human down for some of these offenses. I do live in Texas, where we do have a drive-thru death penalty.





These results have been found on the internet and as such are suspect at best. it would depend on who did the testing. 100% with you on this one.


Side note. I am glad you were able to come back once you cooled off. i noticed you getting a little hot there. I take some of the blame for that.

I didn't mean to come off heated, I guess that is how it came across though, I have been in this hospital room with my wife since she got admitted yesterday and I am about to go nuts....i am going home tonight though. Hospitals scare the hell out of me...

[nickb]

Originally Posted by xd4life

Hospitals scare the hell out of me...

Me too....hope everything is OK.

[dsr30]

It's interesting to see the views of many of the board members towards these dogs. Alot of what I've read seems to be 2nd, 3rd,..56th hand info, media and not personal experience with the dog. When the anti gunners base their opinions using similar methods, we pounce on them and point out why guns aren't as bad as they're made out to be. Because we're (giving the benefit of the doubt) all responsible gun owners and know that the bad press that people who mis-use guns generate doesn't apply to all of us and shouldn't. But many of us here are using the same rational and thinking that they do...ironic and interesting.

[Frenchy]

Love my Lab..........................................

[retired]

French, you are going to have an interesting tan spot on your head with those glasses there.

But she's a lover and would NEVER bite anyone or anything!

Dave.H, that is definitely your opinion and IMO, not a very wise statement to make. A dog is an animal and can and will bite if provoked or scared enough. I have had a couple of dogs that never bit anyone, including the mutt I have now. He lets my 10 month old granddaughter (who lives with us), pull his hair and gently "slap" him. He does nothing.

That being said, I would NEVER say my dog or any dog I have had/will have, would never bite anyone or anything.

You cannot imagine how many times I heard that from people when I was in patro. This was while their German Shepard (I had one and he was good with my kids for 12yrs.) or Pitt Bull was running toward me. It was only because they caught him in time that they remained alive (the dog), as I was in the process of pulling the trigger when they caught them.

You might want to reconsider that statement. No matter how sweet your dog is; after all, she is a dog and you should never say they won't ever bite unless they are dead. That is the only time you can be sure.

[mgeoffriau]

Having grown up with big dogs (a 130 lb Bouvier des Flandres, and a 95 lb Rottie primarily), you just learn to accept the greater responsibility that comes with a big dog. The reason you don't hear horror stories about poodle attacks is not because they don't happen -- it's because at worst, you get a small nip on your hand and have to wash a bit of blood off (if that even). But when someone is irresponsible with the raising/training of a big dog, things can get ugly.

It's no different than anything else. You can be pretty stupid with a paintball gun, and chances are no one will get seriously hurt. You can even mess around with a BB gun, and odds are that you'll avoid a major accident.

But when you own a centerfire pistol or rifle, you better be responsible with it. That doesn't mean we ban all "high-powered guns" or "assault rifles" or whatever. It simply means that we punish those who abuse their responsibility.