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ArmyGuy45 · 06-08-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTHW

When he broke into MY HOUSE, He MADE me his judge! Running at a family member with a really big knife(rambo style) is the only reason you need in your own house. Yeah Alabama, for the right to protect your property.

i agree.. and i would of give him one warning.. and if he took a step closer... bam...
but with 15 to 20 yards between the dad and the guy... i dont think that would of looked well in the courts eyes .. but my personal opinion.. hes on my land.. and shouldnt be.. get off or get shot

StereoGuy · 06-08-2007, 06:31 PM

First things first I'm sure glad that your dad and you came out unharmed. Chock up another one for the goodguy with a gun stopping a theft and maybe a stabbing. I'm glad you did not have to fire at him, nobody wants to live with taking a life if not a must.. If he would have moved in on your dad I would have unloaded for sure. It is too bad that he got away but it wasn't your day to be the judge like said before. Make sure you unlock that gun before you put in the safe.

DTHW · 06-08-2007, 06:45 PM

I'm not out to hurt(kill) anybody. But if your in my house and shouldn't be with a knife, stealing my sh1t, you're a dead sumbeeotch. The law here says I'm justified no matter which direction he's facing. I don't see why there's a problem defending my house,property,family,everything I work for--otherwise I'd sit it out by the curb.

dasanii19 · 06-08-2007, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTHW

I'm not out to hurt(kill) anybody. But if your in my house and shouldn't be with a knife, stealing my sh1t, you're a dead sumbeeotch. The law here says I'm justified no matter which direction he's facing. I don't see why there's a problem defending my house,property,family,everything I work for--otherwise I'd sit it out by the curb.

Thats pretty much how I thought before I started learning the laws in the state of Nevada. I still have got alot to learn but atleast I have some sort of out line now.. Alabama, gotta look into that state, sounds interesting..

DTHW · 06-08-2007, 07:12 PM

That law in Alabama was passed recently by the governor. It used to be only in your house could you use lethal force to stop an intruder/burgular. Maybe it was an attempt to stop all the lawsuits from burgulars getting wounded in their occupation since workers comp. doesn't cover it.

Either way, I fully support being able to defend my life, property. The way I see it, If you're taking away my rights, I don't have to acknowledge your rights. I'm going to eat, I will check back later.

Tard · 06-08-2007, 07:19 PM

I read it as 15-20' and I was wondering why you didn't shoot him.
At 15-20 yards, it's a whole different ballgame.
Still, completely justified in brandishing the gun in my unlegal opinion.
Certainly I would have shown it to him, muzzle first, and asked him to leave.

the_gunman1 · 06-08-2007, 07:22 PM

I believe you handled it very well brother.

Tally XD · 06-08-2007, 08:14 PM

I have read your account once more. I see that you stated that, as you came to the doorway to the garage, the intruder was approaching your father, but still had 15 to 20 yards distance between. Was it really this much distance? Did you mean feet instead?

Can you elaborate more? Exactly where was the intruder? Was he inside the garage with your father still? (If so, you must have one HUGE garage if there was 15-20 yards between them)

Did his movement immediately appear to be aggressive towards your father?

Was the intruder outside the garage? Was your father inside or outside the garage?

If the intruder was outside and your father inside, then that would definitely constitute aggression by him coming back inside with possible intent to injure or kill.

**beardman2** · 06-08-2007, 08:55 PM

I assume you called the cops?

I think you handled it right. If he had taken a step or movement towards your dad then its time to up the anti but IMO it wasn't a cut and dry self defense.

Polymerhead · 06-08-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dasanii19

If the guy was on your property with a knife confronting your father, why didn't you shoot him? Or did he run off right when he saw the gun? I can see no shots are necessary if the guy runs off right when he sees the gun but if he still sits there for a few seconds questioning himself what he should do that's when I would have placed my shot.

Does everyone agree?

Maybe to save the $10,000 in legal bills? I have my XD sitting beside my bed every night, but shooting someone is still the very, very last option. It would have been a real-life Tueller drill in that case, but I still would not have shot until he lunged at your dad. You did great, sounds like you secured your property and I sure as heck hope you called the cops, especially after pulling a gun!

06-08-2007, 07:19 PM	#26
Tard XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Machias, WA Posts: 4,453	I read it as 15-20' and I was wondering why you didn't shoot him. At 15-20 yards, it's a whole different ballgame. Still, completely justified in brandishing the gun in my unlegal opinion. Certainly I would have shown it to him, muzzle first, and asked him to leave. __________________ If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the precipitate.

06-08-2007, 07:22 PM	#27
the_gunman1 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,019	I believe you handled it very well brother. __________________ Brian Freedom is expensive...pay up or shut up. "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

06-08-2007, 08:14 PM	#28
Tally XD XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Florida Posts: 1,694	I have read your account once more. I see that you stated that, as you came to the doorway to the garage, the intruder was approaching your father, but still had 15 to 20 yards distance between. Was it really this much distance? Did you mean feet instead? Can you elaborate more? Exactly where was the intruder? Was he inside the garage with your father still? (If so, you must have one HUGE garage if there was 15-20 yards between them) Did his movement immediately appear to be aggressive towards your father? Was the intruder outside the garage? Was your father inside or outside the garage? If the intruder was outside and your father inside, then that would definitely constitute aggression by him coming back inside with possible intent to injure or kill. __________________ _________________________________________ "My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office. In the first year, I intend to work with Congress on a national no carry law, one gun a month purchase limits, and bans on all semi-automatic guns." *-Barack Obama, VPC Fund Raiser, 2007* _________________________________________

06-08-2007, 08:55 PM	#29
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,955	I assume you called the cops? I think you handled it right. If he had taken a step or movement towards your dad then its time to up the anti but IMO it wasn't a cut and dry self defense. __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

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06-08-2007, 06:31 PM	#22
StereoGuy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 139	First things first I'm sure glad that your dad and you came out unharmed. Chock up another one for the goodguy with a gun stopping a theft and maybe a stabbing. I'm glad you did not have to fire at him, nobody wants to live with taking a life if not a must.. If he would have moved in on your dad I would have unloaded for sure. It is too bad that he got away but it wasn't your day to be the judge like said before. Make sure you unlock that gun before you put in the safe.

06-08-2007, 06:45 PM	#23
DTHW XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntsville,Alabama Posts: 304	I'm not out to hurt(kill) anybody. But if your in my house and shouldn't be with a knife, stealing my sh1t, you're a dead sumbeeotch. The law here says I'm justified no matter which direction he's facing. I don't see why there's a problem defending my house,property,family,everything I work for--otherwise I'd sit it out by the curb.

06-08-2007, 07:12 PM	#25
DTHW XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntsville,Alabama Posts: 304	That law in Alabama was passed recently by the governor. It used to be only in your house could you use lethal force to stop an intruder/burgular. Maybe it was an attempt to stop all the lawsuits from burgulars getting wounded in their occupation since workers comp. doesn't cover it. Either way, I fully support being able to defend my life, property. The way I see it, If you're taking away my rights, I don't have to acknowledge your rights. I'm going to eat, I will check back later.