Here's What We Can Do to Prevent Gun Violence

[sloan1919]

So I open my email and see this message from The Brady Camp. Of course it was filled with lies like most of their emails are. I just found it very disconcerting that they would use the VA Tech shooting to promote these lies.

Here is their solution to prevent gun violence:

What can we do about gun violence?



There are many things we can do to prevent gun violence. Here are three policy proposals:

1. We must comprehensively and effectively apply the Brady background check system, so no one who we want to prohibit from buying guns can legally buy one.
Effective background checks would have stopped the Virginia Tech killer from buying these guns.

2. We must reduce access to weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense.
Had Congress and the President not allowed the assault weapon ban to expire, the killer may not have been able to obtain the high capacity magazines he used in his assault.

3. We must give our police and federal law enforcement the tools and resources they need to fight gun crimes, including illegal gun trafficking and corrupt gun dealers.
New technologies, such as microstamping and other ballistic identification systems, might have allowed authorities to identify the Virginia Tech shooter earlier, before his second, most deadly, rampage.

Each of their proposals has a little "this is how this could have prevented VT" comment.

[Krackels]

The Brady Campaign is a cleverly disguised attempt to strip Americans of all of their Second Amendment rights.

They'll use whatever they can to accomplish their goals. Anyone who believes that their definition of "weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense"is concrete is sorely mistaken.

I'd challenge someone to find a definition of what weaponry that is for sport and self-defense actually is.

[fritzmeister]

#1. There are some things that states and feds need to be on the same page that would have maybe helped single the VT guy out. The whole mental health issue is a sticky one, because, I think that anyone can be commited at anytime for almost anything. I might be wrong, but I think that's close.

#2. Who cares if he had high cap mags or not. If I don't, then it just means I need to buy more mags. It isn't going to stop me, or anybody else from killing many, many people, .......... if that was in fact, what I wanted to do.

#3. How would micro stamping have helped police stop the VT guy from going on his second "rampage"? They didn't even get there until after the 'second' one started. They weren't going to run a check on a weapon that they didn't even have in their possesion, or even know who was doing the shooting. The only way they were going to stop him was to shoot him.

These mindless Brady freaks are a total waste of our precious oxygen. I'm glad that you are keeping an eye on "the enemy", Sloan. Everytime I hear about gun control laws, it makes my head hurt and want to explode.

[jednp]

so I wonder how good the brady bunch would feel about only 20 students being killed because the shooter was only allowed to have 10 round magazines? but maybe he had 10 of them and still shot 100 rounds.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the brady bunch didn't make it into Va Tech and roll around in the blood of these victims. They are just bathing in it right now and it's sickening.

[Tard]

My 18-YO grandson and ALL of his friends have no interest in shooting at all.

Every one of them pretty much believes these kind of statements because it's been drilled into them at the public school since they were about 5.

None of them could care less about the 2nd amendment.

And, that's our future.

[fritzmeister]

Originally Posted by Krackels

The Brady Campaign is a cleverly disguised attempt to strip Americans of all of their Second Amendment rights.

They'll use whatever they can to accomplish their goals. Anyone who believes that their definition of "weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense"is concrete is sorely mistaken.

I'd challenge someone to find a definition of what weaponry that is for sport and self-defense actually is.

I forgot about that in my response. Thanks, Krackels. What is sport? Anything I do with a firearm is sport. Doesn't matter if it's a HDR or not. Maybe my "sport" is just shooting targets. I'm surprised these meat bags would even consider letting people continue to own firearms for "sport or for SELF-DEFENSE"??!!! Isn't that what a majority of hand guns are for?!?!

These people really raise my blood pressure. Clueless chimps that deny the truth of everything, and twist it to fit their agenda.

[jednp]

Originally Posted by Tard

My 18-YO grandson and ALL of his friends have no interest in shooting at all.

Every one of them pretty much believes these kind of statements because it's been drilled into them at the public school since they were about 5.

None of them could care less about the 2nd amendment.

And, that's our future.

don't be so sure about that. While I agree there are kids who are being taught that the 2nd amendment needs to be done away with. there are still kids younger than 18 that are being taught respect for guns and like shooting.

My nephew is 7 years old, he loves his BB gun. He also likes shooting the 10/22 when we go out. His friend across the street from my parents house is 8 years old I think. He too has BB guns and his dad is into hunting and takes him out shooting sometimes too. So there are younger generations who will grow up being taught that they need to protect the 2nd amendment.

There have always been anti-gun people, and there have always been people preaching anti-gun stuff to others. But there has always been pro-gun people too and there are still a lot of us around. Think about it.. they say at least 80 million people own guns in this country. Now consider how many family members of theirs that don't own guns yet.. but are still pro-gun.

Just because some stupid teacher or professor spouts their anti-gun stuff to students, or just because the brady bunch makes stupid claims, doesn't mean that our future is full of people who are only anti-gun.

[sloan1919]

Originally Posted by fritzmeister

#1. There are some things that states and feds need to be on the same page that would have maybe helped single the VT guy out. The whole mental health issue is a sticky one, because, I think that anyone can be commited at anytime for almost anything. I might be wrong, but I think that's close. Things like keeping track of people who voluntarily check themselves into places for counseling will prevent many people who really do need the help not want to go. I would be afraid that everyone will know about my issue.

#2. Who cares if he had high cap mags or not. If I don't, then it just means I need to buy more mags. It isn't going to stop me, or anybody else from killing many, many people, .......... if that was in fact, what I wanted to do. Yeah their number two makes no sense either. Anyone could have a high-cap mag during the ban. It just couldn't be manufactured during the ban, and this was almost impossible to keep tabs on unless the gun was made after the ban. All this law did was make the prices a little more on the high-cap mags.

#3. How would micro stamping have helped police stop the VT guy from going on his second "rampage"? They didn't even get there until after the 'second' one started. They weren't going to run a check on a weapon that they didn't even have in their possesion, or even know who was doing the shooting. The only way they were going to stop him was to shoot him. Microstamping and all that jazz wouldn't have helped at all. They just threw that one in so they would have a 3 step plan. For some reason having 3 of anything makes it seems more legit.

These mindless Brady freaks are a total waste of our precious oxygen. I'm glad that you are keeping an eye on "the enemy", Sloan. Everytime I hear about gun control laws, it makes my head hurt and want to explode.

Sloan

[sloan1919]

Originally Posted by Krackels

The Brady Campaign is a cleverly disguised attempt to strip Americans of all of their Second Amendment rights.

They'll use whatever they can to accomplish their goals. Anyone who believes that their definition of "weaponry that is not for sport and not for self-defense"is concrete is sorely mistaken.

I'd challenge someone to find a definition of what weaponry that is for sport and self-defense actually is.

Wayne cuts through the crap and lets you know what they REALLY want. This is not a rep from the brady camp but from a NGO with the same purpose.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7WwLz9hBZfM


This is a good one too...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FD1YmYuRt...related&search=

[wombat13]

Originally Posted by Tard

My 18-YO grandson and ALL of his friends have no interest in shooting at all.

Every one of them pretty much believes these kind of statements because it's been drilled into them at the public school since they were about 5.

None of them could care less about the 2nd amendment.

And, that's our future.

You're correct that interest among today's children will be a factor in the future vitality of our RKBA. That's why I've recently decided to add the 4-H Shooting Sports to my charity list. I need to determine whether to donate to the national foundation or to my local chapter. Here is a link to their website if you are interested in finding out more:

http://www.4-hshootingsports.org/Kids'N'Guns.htm

Disclosure: I currently have no relationship with 4-H. I am simply impressed that they are actively promoting shooting sports to our youth.

P.S. I already donate to NRA.