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prawls · 05-03-2007, 09:36 AM

This is from the VA State Police website. Is this the same everywhere?? It rules out your friendly neighborhood Applebee's, Outback, etc....just curious if its all other states or just a VA thing.

J3. No person shall carry a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in § 4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia; however, nothing herein shall prohibit any sworn law-enforcement officer from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of such restaurant or club or any owner or event sponsor or his employees from carrying a concealed handgun while on duty at such restaurant or club if such person has a concealed handgun permit.

Palmguy · 05-03-2007, 09:39 AM

In Florida, you can carry concealed in those type of restaurants that you listed, with the caveat that you have to stay out of the bar area of the restaurant.

jeepinbanditrider · 05-03-2007, 09:43 AM

The key word here is CONCEALED VA allows open carry of firearms. You can open carry into resturants even if they serve alcohol.

Check out the link below to read stories about fellow VAers that OC on a regular basis:

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/

Tard · 05-03-2007, 09:49 AM

In WA state, you can carry into restaurants that serve alcohol but not into the actual bar area and there is an obvious sign saying so at each place, too.

Some restaurants will put that sign right up front to discourage CCW. I heed their advice and spend my money elsewhere.

matchstick · 05-03-2007, 09:52 AM

Texas has a 51% rule. If 51% or more of the income is from alcohol then you can't carry... few actual restraunts get that much income from alcohol.

fritzmeister · 05-03-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by matchstick

Texas has a 51% rule. If 51% or more of the income is from alcohol then you can't carry... few actual restraunts get that much income from alcohol.

Nebraska has a similar rule. I forget the exact verbage, but it is the same principal.

wombat13 · 05-03-2007, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matchstick

Texas has a 51% rule. If 51% or more of the income is from alcohol then you can't carry... few actual restraunts get that much income from alcohol.

How is a customer supposed to know what percentage of the business' income comes from alcohol?

ichy_trigger · 05-03-2007, 09:58 AM

In Ohio you are barred from carrying a firearm in any establishment that serves alchohol for CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES. You are welcome to walk into a liquor store but stay out of the bars and eateries.

D_Fence · 05-03-2007, 09:59 AM

Concealed carry laws are state-specific and restaurant carry is one of the laws that you'll find a lot of variation.

D_Fence · 05-03-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wombat13

How is a customer supposed to know what percentage of the business' income comes from alcohol?

I think it is one of those "you know it when you see it" issues, although that isn't very reassuring when you face criminal charges for making a mistake despite trying to follow the law.

I'm sure you would be fine if the restaurant has a full menu, the majority of customers order food whether or not they drink, and a large lunch crowd to offset the late evening customers who order more booze than food.

05-03-2007, 09:36 AM	#1
prawls XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 303	CC in restaurants? This is from the VA State Police website. Is this the same everywhere?? It rules out your friendly neighborhood Applebee's, Outback, etc....just curious if its all other states or just a VA thing. J3. No person shall carry a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in § 4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia; however, nothing herein shall prohibit any sworn law-enforcement officer from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of such restaurant or club or any owner or event sponsor or his employees from carrying a concealed handgun while on duty at such restaurant or club if such person has a concealed handgun permit. __________________ Kimber Ultra CDP, SA 1911 GI, SA XD45 Tactical, Sig P239 SAS, S&W 638, Ruger P89, Ruger LCP, Bersa Thunder 380, Kel-Tec P32HC, Walther P22

05-03-2007, 09:39 AM	#2
Palmguy XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lower Alabama Posts: 1,659	In Florida, you can carry concealed in those type of restaurants that you listed, with the caveat that you have to stay out of the bar area of the restaurant. __________________

05-03-2007, 09:43 AM	#3
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,854	The key word here is CONCEALED VA allows open carry of firearms. You can open carry into resturants even if they serve alcohol. Check out the link below to read stories about fellow VAers that OC on a regular basis: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/ __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

05-03-2007, 09:49 AM	#4
Tard XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Machias, WA Posts: 3,902	In WA state, you can carry into restaurants that serve alcohol but not into the actual bar area and there is an obvious sign saying so at each place, too. Some restaurants will put that sign right up front to discourage CCW. I heed their advice and spend my money elsewhere. __________________ If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the precipitate.

05-03-2007, 09:52 AM	#5
matchstick XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 218	Texas has a 51% rule. If 51% or more of the income is from alcohol then you can't carry... few actual restraunts get that much income from alcohol. __________________ Springfield XD 9MM Service Kahr PM9 NRA Life Member TSRA Member

05-03-2007, 09:58 AM	#8
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 8,065	In Ohio you are barred from carrying a firearm in any establishment that serves alchohol for CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES. You are welcome to walk into a liquor store but stay out of the bars and eateries. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

05-03-2007, 09:59 AM	#9
D_Fence XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,346	Concealed carry laws are state-specific and restaurant carry is one of the laws that you'll find a lot of variation.

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