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Old 04-27-2007, 04:41 PM   #1
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The Type Of Gun Owners That I Am Sick Of.

Time for a long rant, sports fans.

It occurred to me, today while I was thinking about all of the anti-gun publicity, that gun owners are so numerous that we ARE THE MAJORITY. THE NRA is admittedly the most powerful lobby in Washington. Brady and the rest of the anti-gunners say that all of the time. Yet, they say that WE are the minority. They have said that gun owners represent a small minority of people in the United States, and it is small enough that it is safe to offend us with their policies and laws. OK. If that is the case, why are we BY THEIR ADMISSION the strongest lobby on Capitol Hill? Why is the gun industry so big and profitable in the United States if there are only a few "rednecks" out there buying guns? Why is this country "AWASH IN GUNS" if no one likes guns? Why did Bill Clinton confess in his book "My Life" that gun owners kicked the democrats out of the House and Senate in 1994 after passing the AWB and Brady? How could that happen if we are a very small minority? These questions came to mind.

Then, something else came to mind that was even more disturbing to me. If there are 80-some million gun owners in this country, why does the NRA publish that they only have 4,000,000 members? Why so many people that do not want to protect their rights? OH!! I know what some of you might say. The NRA is evil. I have heard it on this forum. Some people saying that they hate the NRA. They make us look bad. They cave in and make concessions that hurt us. YADA YADA YADA. OK, so go join the GOA. Why is the GOA much, much smaller than the NRA? If you do not like the NRA, then you would surely got to another organization to help us, right???? Guess not. Every other gun lobby is much smaller than the NRA. SO, where are all the rest of these gun owners? How are they contributing to the cause? I think I have an answer.

They aren't contributing. They are enjoying their 2A freedoms while allowing us to pay to defend theirs. While we write letters, spread the word, and support the cause, they are sitting on their lazy, complacent butts thinking that their rights will never become infringed upon. Why? Maybe it is because they only own hunting rifles, and think that they will never come after them? Probably.

I am saying all of this because I got into an argument with my cousin last night who is a gun owner of 40 years. He owns 30 firearms. He told me that he would never support the NRA because they like to hire "---- women to be their presidents"(yep, that's the four letter word that women despise). He told me that he owns side by side shotguns and lever action deer rifles, and people like me with my "machine guns and handguns that serve no sporting purpose" are ruining it for the rest. He told me that the Schumer's, McCarthy's, Feinstein's and Kennedy's of the world are trying to address people like me and not him. He thinks it is a hilarious joke that I get on the internet and talk guns to a bunch of "whack jobs" on a gun forum(that's you guys). He told me that I am an "idiot one-issue voter". Of course he votes pro Union, so I guess he is the idiot, as well. WOW! Is that how the other 76,000,000 gun owners feel? My only question is: How can people be so blind? How can someone own 30 firearms and hate the NRA and other gun owners so bad? How can we get to the other gun owners and wake them up? Do all of you really think we are seeing full representation from all gun owners? NOT. There are only a sliver of us doing this job of preserving our rights.

Tired of my rant yet? Sorry. I feel better now.

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Wow.....you want a cigarette?

I hear you, bro. There's an eight page thread (and growing) on the issue of pro-NRA/anti-NRA over at the local AZ shooting forum I frequent, and the majority of people who don't like the NRA are EBR enthusiasts who feel that they've been marginalized by the NRA--that the support for military-derived weapons enthusiasts just isn't there. The other complaint is that the NRA is too "reactive", as opposed to pro-active; they're frustrated with simply waiting for anti-gun legislation to be opposed after it's already been proposed rather than going on the offensive and taking some ground back (something Ron Paul's attempting to do which I agree with).

There are a bunch of Zumbos and hunting snobs with the NRA who look down their collective noses at the mil-type guys, but even with that reality, I'll continue to support the organization as I believe they do more good than harm. I'm also signing up with the GOA soon--I like their take-no-prisoners attitude.

IMO, everybody else who enjoys their guns (and rights) should find some organization to support, whether it's local, state, or national, and get into the fight, because there are people on the other side of this who care very passionately about emptying your safe permanently.
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Dan.

I am an NRA member for life.

I am going over to GOA and joining tonight.
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Dan.

I am an NRA member for life.

I am going over to GOA and joining tonight.
Good to hear--I figured you were NRA already from your rant.
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I haven't been a member so far this year. I feel terrible. We are in a terrible financial slump. As soon as I can get out of it I want to look into a lifetime membership!
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Wow.....you want a cigarette?

I hear you, bro. There's an eight page thread (and growing) on the issue of pro-NRA/anti-NRA over at the local AZ shooting forum I frequent, and the majority of people who don't like the NRA are EBR enthusiasts who feel that they've been marginalized by the NRA--that the support for military-derived weapons enthusiasts just isn't there. The other complaint is that the NRA is too "reactive", as opposed to pro-active; they're frustrated with simply waiting for anti-gun legislation to be opposed after it's already been proposed rather than going on the offensive and taking some ground back (something Ron Paul's attempting to do which I agree with).

There are a bunch of Zumbos and hunting snobs with the NRA who look down their collective noses at the mil-type guys, but even with that reality, I'll continue to support the organization as I believe they do more good than harm. I'm also signing up with the GOA soon--I like their take-no-prisoners attitude.

IMO, everybody else who enjoys their guns (and rights) should find some organization to support, whether it's local, state, or national, and get into the fight, because there are people on the other side of this who care very passionately about emptying your safe permanently.
+1 with the following addenda;
1. your cousin is an idiot, don't let him upset you
2. there are plenty of us out here who feel the same way you do.
3. Keep supporting the NRA as i do, where would we be if they weren't there.
4. and perhaps the most important to remember: the many have ALWAYS had to protect the few, we veterans are aware of this and it's why we're not bitter about the fat cats who sit at home ridiculing us while they reap the benefits of our protection.

Today on the "endless thread" i urged my friends there to write their congressmen and senators on the latest anti gun HR sponsored by Chuck Schumer(Ptooey), and we all wrote to them right then and there. We must take action, not just sit and bitch, if we want to preserve the heritage that our constitution GUARANTEES us. why is the 2nd amendment assailable and the 1st not???
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I haven't been a member so far this year. I feel terrible. We are in a terrible financial slump. As soon as I can get out of it I want to look into a lifetime membership!
Brian; that's understandable, many of us don't have big wallets. you can help by informing your elected representatives how you feel on the issues; write them, email them, call them, tell them how their actions affect YOUR VOTE. i think my NRA membership expires in 2011, but i'll be renewing.....can't afford a lifetime membership either.......there's lots you can do buddy.....but we have to be more active. WE need to be pro active as well as the NRA.....
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I haven't been a member so far this year. I feel terrible. We are in a terrible financial slump. As soon as I can get out of it I want to look into a lifetime membership!
I have wrote in many threads in the past that people should not feel ashamed of their financial situation. As another person mentioned, writing a letter to your Senator is more for our cause than many others will ever do. You don't have to be loaded to help your cause. The fact that you come to this forum and associate with others like you sets you a notch above the people that I complain about. When you get the money, do not rush into a life membership. Don't do that to your bank account. Pick an organization, send them $35.00 for the year, and get the ball rolling.
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Good rant. Long live the NRA!!
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People with weapons aren't just freeloaders. They'll shoot if/when they have to. They just gotta be convinced of when they have to.

The NRA, on the other hand, works to prevent the bloody version of protecting 2A rights by bartering with the devil on the matter.

I don't endorse any lobby group -- because they all seem to miss the point more often than not. If I had to whole-heartedly accept the doctrines of one lobby group, it would certainly be the NRA because the compromises they make in the name of their cause are significantly less reprehensible than the ones others make in the name of theirs.
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