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Old 03-16-2007, 06:59 PM   #41
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The cops overreacted big time. If it's illegal then impound the bike, but as far as grabbing the kid like that? If it were one of my grandkids I would have callet the cops on that cop and asked for a supervisor. l I'm not an enabler to break the laws by any means and I was even tough on my kids, but this is plainly the parents fault and not the kids so take it out on them, don't go jerking around a 7 year old. Just another example of some of the pathetic losers that enjoy being in a positon of power.
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To everyone that doesn't live in or around Baltimore,...you have to live here to understand it. We have 7, 8, 9 year old kids walking into stores with 800, 900 even 1,000 dollars cash ( prob in drug money), DURING SCHOOL HOURS!!!!!! We have hoodlums riding sport bikes doing 100 + MPH on the highway DOING WHEELIES. We have people being hit by ATV's on city streets.

Taking the kid downtown, locked up and interrogating him will probably and sadly be the best lesson in life he will get for a long time. Not only is riding a motorcycle on a street dangerous enough nowaddays, but still, with the engine on, no helmet, no lessons, COME ON!!!!

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To everyone that doesn't live in or around Baltimore,...you have to live here to understand it. We have 7, 8, 9 year old kids walking into stores with 800, 900 even 1,000 dollars cash ( prob in drug money), DURING SCHOOL HOURS!!!!!! We have hoodlums riding sport bikes doing 100 + MPH on the highway DOING WHEELIES. We have people being hit by ATV's on city streets.

Taking the kid downtown, locked up and interrogating him will probably and sadly be the best lesson in life he will get for a long time. Not only is riding a motorcycle on a street dangerous enough nowaddays, but still, with the engine on, no helmet, no lessons, COME ON!!!!

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I figured it was an out of control city. I take the leadership is pro lib/gangbanger? If so, the city is doomed.
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Theres also people getting seriously hurt by these kids all the time. In certain parts of the city its more like warfar going on then anything else. To give you and idea Baltimore city sells inpouded bikes/atv's etc every two months thers usually over 500 in the auction.
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Old 03-17-2007, 02:16 AM   #45
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To everyone that doesn't live in or around Baltimore,...you have to live here to understand it. We have 7, 8, 9 year old kids walking into stores with 800, 900 even 1,000 dollars cash ( prob in drug money), DURING SCHOOL HOURS!!!!!! We have hoodlums riding sport bikes doing 100 + MPH on the highway DOING WHEELIES. We have people being hit by ATV's on city streets.

Taking the kid downtown, locked up and interrogating him will probably and sadly be the best lesson in life he will get for a long time. Not only is riding a motorcycle on a street dangerous enough nowaddays, but still, with the engine on, no helmet, no lessons, COME ON!!!!

sorry for the rant.
Engine on? Can you read? WTF does stealing from stores during school hours, doing 100+ on the streets and doing wheelies have to do with anything at all in this case???? Do you have proof he was doing any of that? Is it your contenton that ALL 7 year olds are doing these things and should be punished for them. Come on, none of that is relevant unless he was actually doing it. Maybe it's because he's black that he must be stealing hundreds of dollars from stores.

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Dinkins, who turned 7 last month, was sitting on the bike with the motor off on a sidewalk near his home in east Baltimore when an officer grabbed him by the collar and pulled him off the bike
It looks to me like he was sitting on a bike with the motor turned off. It was very dumb to jerk a 7 year old around, and I don't care what anyone says it's the parents fault if there are 7 8 and 9 year olds are out of control. It's the parents that should be jerked around anyway. You also do not take what other kids are doing out on anyone except for the person actually doing something wrong, you don't just pick some 7 year old just sitting on a tunned off bike and take out the whole cities problems. The cop should be fired, period. How the hell do they know if he was riding it on the sidewalk or not, he could have been actually riding it on the street. Just suspecting someone might have ridden the bike on the sidewalk because they were sitting on a bike that's not even turned on warrants jerking a 7 year old around? Sheesh. The cop needs to be working at burger king or something. You don't get physical with a kid just because you SUSPECT them of something.

You can say "these kids" all you want, but what any one of them did or is doing has absolutely nothing to do with this kid. He should be judged by his own merits, and sitting on a turned off bike does not warrant being attacked by a jackboot. Parents are responsible for taking care of 7 year olds, period. That includes keeping them from robbing stores and making sure they go to school.

They should impound the bike and auction it off if necessary, but an adult cop attacking a 7 year old is a firing offense as far as I'm concerned. The mother will probably get rich off this when they should have been holding her responsible and not the kid.

I would also be interested on seeing some stats showing 7 year olds are commiting all these crimes, I read that only 2% of the juvenile crime there is committed by kids under 10.

Here's what he looks like, that probably explains it. I disagree that it will teach him a lesson other than to hate cops with a passion the rest of his life. Probably anyone that saw the pig jerk him off the bike will also. It's no wonder people hate cops.

http://www.examiner.com/a-619947~Bus...erprinted.html

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"Engine on? Can you read? "

Yes I can, I was going off what I heard on the news this morning, haven't had a chance to read the paper yet.

WTF does stealing from stores during school hours, doing 100+ on the streets and doing wheelies have to do with anything at all in this case????

I didn't say stealing from stores,

"We have 7, 8, 9 year old kids walking into stores with 800, 900 even 1,000 dollars cash ( prob in drug money), DURING SCHOOL HOURS!!!!!! "

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We have hoodlums riding sport bikes doing 100 + MPH on the highway DOING WHEELIES. (EDIT) they ride on the shoulder, throw **** in your car, weave in and out of traffic, We have people being hit by ATV's on city streets

I never said that the kids were stealing the money from the stores, they're walking in with that much in cash, when they should be in school. And no, I don't think that all 7 year olds are doing this, I know they're not

"How the hell do they know if he was riding it on the sidewalk or not, he could have been actually riding it on the street." They had a clip about this on the news, and yes, the kid was riding around on the sidewalk, motor on, during the news...how else do you go up-hill with out your feet touching the ground?
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Can anyone other than me smell "lawsuit" coming from Mom Dinkins?

"Dinkins said the incident has scarred her son. "This has changed his life," she said. "He'll never be the same." (does that mean he'll be better? worse?)

As an old time LEO, all I can say is this should never have happened. You settle dustups like this at the local level, not by dragging the little rug rat off to the station. It's one thing for the beat LEO to take the kid off the bike if he feels there's a danger to others. It's another for the supervisior not to settle the issue at the lowest level.

Not to cast stones (since I don't know the whole story and I'm sure we aren't seeing what the beat LEO and supervisior saw on scene), but this is the type of incident that leads to some very heavy cash payouts by city government and most "activists" are well aware of this.....
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:41 PM   #48
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WTF does stealing from stores during school hours, doing 100+ on the streets and doing wheelies have to do with anything at all in this case????

I didn't say stealing from stores,

"We have 7, 8, 9 year old kids walking into stores with 800, 900 even 1,000 dollars cash ( prob in drug money), DURING SCHOOL HOURS!!!!!! "

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We have hoodlums riding sport bikes doing 100 + MPH on the highway DOING WHEELIES. (EDIT) they ride on the shoulder, throw **** in your car, weave in and out of traffic, We have people being hit by ATV's on city streets

I never said that the kids were stealing the money from the stores, they're walking in with that much in cash, when they should be in school. And no, I don't think that all 7 year olds are doing this, I know they're not

"How the hell do they know if he was riding it on the sidewalk or not, he could have been actually riding it on the street." They had a clip about this on the news, and yes, the kid was riding around on the sidewalk, motor on, during the news...how else do you go up-hill with out your feet touching the ground?
I was typing pretty much asleep last night and don't know where I got the stealing from stores part from, but it doesn't matter. Just because there are kids doing something does not mean it's remotely relevant in this case. People should NEVER be judged on what someone else is doing, not in this country anyway.

The kid was sitting on his bike and not running away or eluding arrest so the cop should NOT be jerking him around. It's NEVER ok for a cop to get physical with someone unless they are resisting arrest, etc. For him to be jerking ANYONE around that's just sitting on a turned off bike should be deplorable to everyone. Would you support it if a cop pulled you over for speeding and then jerked you out of the car by the collar if you were just sitting here? Of course not, you would expect him to give you a ticket and not go physical on you. It's the SAME THING whether you want to admit it or not and even worse because the kid is 7 years old. There was no reason whatsoever for this pig to get physical with the kid and he should be out of a job, period. You can't tell me there's a police force in the nation that would condone a cop getting physical with ANYONE suspected of commiting a misdemeanor unless they are running away, getting violent or resisting arrest and don't even tell me this 7 year old kid was doing any of these things sitting on his turned off bike. I havn't seen martial law declared here yet and in the meantime cops have to treat people like human beings without attacking them.

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I agree and it will also make things worse for the good leo's. I guess cops here are old fashioned, if kids here here that age are doing something wrong they hold the parents responsible and do not get physical with 7 year olds. I have in very high crime areas in southern california where there were gangs and constant drive by shootings, you couldn't go to a quinceanera without being worried someone would drive by and start shooting so I know what high crime areas are like. I support cops trying to do their jobs to stop these kinds of things, but they still have standards to go by which includes not getting physical with someone just because they are suspected of commiting a misdemeanor unless that person runs, fights back or otherwise resists arrest. I hope anyone that supports that kind of behavior from cops gets their whole family dragged out of the car by the collar on their next traffic stop. There are after all probably more people speeding in baltimore than riding a bike on the sidewalk on any given day and they need to be taught a lesson.

I support good cops wholeheartedly hacker, so I'm not a cop hater, but bad cops stand out much more than the good ones do and they need to be nipped in the bud. If this cop is going to get physical with a 7 year old when physical action is not warranted then he will probably continue to be abusive in the future.

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Ya know.....Back when I was 7 the cops would have just taken me and knocked on my parent's door and the ass whoopin would have commenced.

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Ya know.....Back when I was 7 the cops would have just taken me and knocked on my parent's door and the ass whoopin would have commenced.

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