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Old 10-05-2006, 09:00 AM   #11
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I'm a senior undergrad student in pre-med right now, and anytime anyone mentions it or asks, I tell them that I won't ever marry. They act insulted, like I've violated some sacred social rite and demand to know why. My response, of course, is that I wouldn't go on a cruise ship that had a 52% or so sink rate and no lifeboats, and I have no intention of taking the same chance with marriage.

I'm not some introverted cynic, but I think that any guy my age with half the grey matter he's supposed to have can see that marriage is just not worth it to men in our society as it stands now. Of course, my mom (who desperately wants grandkids) and dad give me the same old tired "you just have to find the right woman" argument. I'm sure Dave will back me up... NO ONE marries thinking "this probably won't work, but I'll do it anyway."

The financial perks of divorce are just too enticing to women. A good number of them can't help themselves, and that's not a risk worth taking, in my opinion, even though on a personal level I would love to marry.

Until the feminists in today's society realize that alimony and no-contest custody of children are CAUSING the divorce rate to be so high today, the marriage rate in this country will continue to decline throughout my lifetime.
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:07 AM   #12
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I'm a senior undergrad student in pre-med right now, and anytime anyone mentions it or asks, I tell them that I won't ever marry. They act insulted, like I've violated some sacred social rite and demand to know why. My response, of course, is that I wouldn't go on a cruise ship that had a 52% or so sink rate and no lifeboats, and I have no intention of taking the same chance with marriage.

I'm not some introverted cynic, but I think that any guy my age with half the grey matter he's supposed to have can see that marriage is just not worth it to men in our society as it stands now. Of course, my mom (who desperately wants grandkids) and dad give me the same old tired "you just have to find the right woman" argument. I'm sure Dave will back me up... NO ONE marries thinking "this probably won't work, but I'll do it anyway."

The financial perks of divorce are just too enticing to women. A good number of them can't help themselves, and that's not a risk worth taking, in my opinion, even though on a personal level I would love to marry.

Until the feminists in today's society realize that alimony and no-contest custody of children are CAUSING the divorce rate to be so high today, the marriage rate in this country will continue to decline throughout my lifetime.
Women can be like cars, just lease one till your bored with it and find a new one...lol (hope my wife wont read this)
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:10 AM   #13
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I Wish You The Best Of Luck With Your Situation! I Have Been In The Same Boat (and Still Am) I Have Spent Many Thousands Of Dollars On A Good Lawyer. I Have Taken My Ex Back To court Time And Time Again. Don't Loose Hope, If You Are Persistant Things Will Hopefully Fall Into Place.
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:22 AM   #14
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I wouldn't go on a cruise ship that had a 52% or so sink rate and no lifeboats, and I have no intention of taking the same chance with marriage.
To continue the boat anology:

The difference being that in the case of marriage you don't just go for the cruise....you design and build and maintain the boat too. At least you do if you don't want it to sink. It's work and you can't do it alone. With your attitude you are right not to get married, it would be doomed from the start.
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Good luck. Your commitment to caring for your kids is obvious and commendable. I hope the system will let you find a way to accomplish that without completely sacrificing your own well being.
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To continue the boat anology:

The difference being that in the case of marriage you don't just go for the cruise....you design and build and maintain the boat too. At least you do if you don't want it to sink. It's work and you can't do it alone. With your attitude you are right not to get married, it would be doomed from the start.
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There is no perfect marriage. If they don't argue I'd be scared for them. The difference is the ones that are commited to each other enough and car for each other enough to work through it. And god forbid even admit to being wrong. Sometimes even if you are not.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:15 PM   #17
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To continue the boat anology:

The difference being that in the case of marriage you don't just go for the cruise....you design and build and maintain the boat too. At least you do if you don't want it to sink. It's work and you can't do it alone. With your attitude you are right not to get married, it would be doomed from the start.
Thanks for the anonymous, online character attack. I'm sure it made you feel better about yourself.

While what you say sounds good (and is probably even true), that doesn't change the fact that somewhere right around half of the marriages in this country end in divorce. Divorce for a man almost always means a loss of custody of his children and a huge chunk of his assets. I'm sure having attempted to build and maintain said boat doesn't make the average person feel much better when their kids and half of their assets and future earnings are taken from them.
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This scares me sooooo much!

I hope the best for you and your children.
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Thanks for the anonymous, online character attack. I'm sure it made you feel better about yourself.

While what you say sounds good (and is probably even true), that doesn't change the fact that somewhere right around half of the marriages in this country end in divorce. Divorce for a man almost always means a loss of custody of his children and a huge chunk of his assets. I'm sure having attempted to build and maintain said boat doesn't make the average person feel much better when their kids and half of their assets and future earnings are taken from them.
Just responding to your anonymous, online character attack on any guy that's ever gotten married.

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I think that any guy my age with half the grey matter he's supposed to have can see that marriage is just not worth it to men in our society as it stands now.
Honestly, I don't know why you consider anything I said offensive. I did not call you any names. I was pointing out that with your current philosophy (re:the "odds" of divorce) any marriage you enter into with that midset is probably destined for failure. Isn't that pretty much what you, yourself, said???
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That sucks. I feel for you. Because of child support, I had my truck repossessed, had my electricity and phone shut off, and lost 40 pounds because I couldn't afford to buy groceries. But it was either that or go to jail.
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