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Wu Wei · 09-19-2006, 10:29 AM

I'd be happy to choke the bastard to death with my bare hands, but this precedent is another piece of America sliced away. I fail to see how this helps protect us. Any terrorist can download a virus or "evil document" via anonymous e-mail anyway. Unless the NSA already spies on all internet traffic already and physically carrying a laptop is the best way. I believe monitoring the internet for such small files is not feasible for many obvious reasons. That leaves one explanation: They do it because they can. Bastards!

Novadesigns · 09-19-2006, 10:56 AM

Yeah, this like saying ban all guns because a murderer used one to commit a crime. You wouldn't support that at all right? Well this shouldn't be supported either... its not really going to stop many criminals as they will very soon find a way around it.

Meanwhile everyone else's right to privacy is further erroded.

aiformula · 09-19-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bd

Might be a good idea to start putting sensitive data like that on some sort of storage device that you can carry separately from your laptop.

Looks like if it's on the hard drive - it's fair game.

bd

There's my million dollar idea.... Disguising flashdrives as shaving cream and toothpaste so you can secret them in your carryon and not have to offer the info to TPTB.

bd · 09-19-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aiformula

There's my million dollar idea.... Disguising flashdrives as shaving cream and toothpaste so you can secret them in your carryon and not have to offer the info to TPTB.

I can see the meeting now....

"Please wait just a minute while I hook up this tube of Ultra-Brite to my laptop and we'll get this meeting started."

bd

Pltybx · 09-19-2006, 02:05 PM

Think of it like this as well:

A member of this forum recently had his firearm stolen from his checked luggage by an airport employee or TSA official. Now who's to say they won't steal the information off your laptop for whatever use they see fit?

VAXDGUY · 09-19-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed 2001 SS

I'm all for getting child porn off the streets, but I am definitely not in favor of this ruling. The idea that a search of the substantive content of a computer is permissible as part of a routine search seems anti-American. The next step down this path will be a complete download of the contents of all laptops enetering the country, in the name of national security of course.

Anti-American years ago. Now, sadly, it's all too American.

Nerves · 09-19-2006, 10:56 PM

...Just as an FYI Memory sticks, zip drive, memory cards any electronic storage device is affected by this ruling.

bd · 09-20-2006, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerves

...Just as an FYI Memory sticks, zip drive, memory cards any electronic storage device is affected by this ruling.

This is getting really ridiculous and wrong.

I wish we had the guts to do what the Thais did, before it's too late.

bd

Nerves · 09-20-2006, 07:19 AM

well elections are coming up, all we can do is vote and tell our friend and love ones your opinions. I know this Nov. I am picking up a driving to the polls 13 folks....I can't control how they vote, but I'll make sure they are there and aware of the issues. my 2 cents.

VAXDGUY · 09-20-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerves

...Just as an FYI Memory sticks, zip drive, memory cards any electronic storage device is affected by this ruling.

No one's going to read my USB: http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads.php

09-19-2006, 10:29 AM	#11
Wu Wei XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 658	I'd be happy to choke the bastard to death with my bare hands, but this precedent is another piece of America sliced away. I fail to see how this helps protect us. Any terrorist can download a virus or "evil document" via anonymous e-mail anyway. Unless the NSA already spies on all internet traffic already and physically carrying a laptop is the best way. I believe monitoring the internet for such small files is not feasible for many obvious reasons. That leaves one explanation: They do it because they can. Bastards! __________________ "Since when do lyrical skills have to do with killin' a cat? / What kind of chitlins is that?" -MF Doom Humans have always carried a projectile weapon, a blade, and fire. Who am I to discard my humanity?

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Novadesigns XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 240	Yeah, this like saying ban all guns because a murderer used one to commit a crime. You wouldn't support that at all right? Well this shouldn't be supported either... its not really going to stop many criminals as they will very soon find a way around it. Meanwhile everyone else's right to privacy is further erroded. __________________ Kimber Eclipse Custom II SA XD-45 ACP Rock River Arms Entry Tactical CAR A4 Ruger K10/22T Stainless

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Nerves XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Fl. Posts: 2,029	well elections are coming up, all we can do is vote and tell our friend and love ones your opinions. I know this Nov. I am picking up a driving to the polls 13 folks....I can't control how they vote, but I'll make sure they are there and aware of the issues. my 2 cents. __________________ \"WHEN YOU PUT ON YOUR GUN LEAVE YOUR MIDDLE FINGER AT HOME\" NRA Member IDPA Member--Wilson Combat CQB (CDP) USPSA Member--New XD 9 Tac & G34 (Production ) IPSC Open Major--STI Trubor Grandmaster CCW's: -- XD-45 ACP 4" with Truglo TFO's & M6 Laser/Light --Kimber Tactical Pro II, ...Many More

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09-19-2006, 02:05 PM	#15
Pltybx XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 716	Think of it like this as well: A member of this forum recently had his firearm stolen from his checked luggage by an airport employee or TSA official. Now who's to say they won't steal the information off your laptop for whatever use they see fit?