fuel for anti-gunners for gun control

[jednp]

When will people realise that you cannot stop crime by taking away guns, or making them harder to get? Ok, so lets say I want to shoot up a school, but it takes me 6 months to 1 year to purchase my gun after going through the loopholes. I have a clean record, nothing that will stop me from getting a gun. Once I get that gun, I'm going on a rampage like I planned. Nothing will stop me. Not a single law on the books can stop me. Gun control does NOT work. Thankfully this is in Canada, but sadly it will influence the anti-gunners here in the US. It's time for criminal control, and time for parents to start raising their kids right and actually tell them about all the things that are bad for them to be doing, and keep that up their whole life. If nobody tells someone something is bad, maybe some people just don't understand. Next laws will say, it's illegal to make a pipe bomb. Wait, those laws are already there.. and guess what.. people still build pipe bombs for attacks on schools.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060914/...anada_guns_col

[Old School]

Just remember that for every example that shows how Gun Control works, there is at least one, if not two examples, of how it does not work (e.g. The UK, Australia, "No Guns" signs, etc.)

OS

[jednp]

That may be true, but we all know the 1 incident that shows gun control stopped something, gets more attention than the 100 incidents that show gun control is total BS. Gun control = making it take longer for a bad person to get a gun. Sure, I feel safe knowing that my neighborhood school shooting will be delayed for a year due to restrictions.. NOT.

Cigarettes and drunk driving kill way more people each year than guns, yet they don't point to the alcohol or cigarettes as being to blame. It's the persons fault. They made the choice to smoke, drink and drive. It's funny how clearly people see situations like that, but how clouded their vision becomes when a gun is involved. I believe people think smoking and drinking are their "rights" guaranteed by the constitution.. much more so than their right to bear arms.. and that is sad. They will fight more for things that aren't even guaranteed to them.

[daveofspades]

Actually, Jed, they do blame the cigarettes and/or the cigarette companies. I mean, we've known for 30+ years that smoking was bad for you and yet people still pick it up. It must be someone else's fault...

They blame bars for drunk drivers, guns for shootings, Bush for Katrina, etc.

It's human nature.


DD

http://the-green-side.blogspot.com/

[robinsre]

It's too bad that people can't see this from another perspective, the perspective that perhaps one well trained armed citizen may have been able to stop this deranged man's rampage before this level of bloodshed had been reached.

[motoman]

this was not a good thing for us Canadians. we lost our hi capacity mags for center fire rifles back in 1989 when someone else did this same thing in quebec. they have been trying to take our mini 14 because that is what he used back then. thankfully they have not succeed in that one. now this happens what heck are they going to try to take away now the beretta storm( this is what he used). these are the kind of people that give us gun owners a bad name and why we some of our privileges taken away. look at one small thing that happened because of columbine no more pistol ammo at k mart. and yes robinsre ccw may have stoped at quick.

[CavSoldier]

Heck jednp, when I went to get my xd (my mom buying it for me cuz im too young) we went to get it from scheels in omaha. I wanted to have a S*** fit when they wanted me to register it with the Omaha police department. I hate the idea of having to register a firearm because in my mind that leads to conifiscation.

[hacker15]

What's that old saying - something about guns cause crime like flies cause garbage......

[So Flo]

If I am the deranged person, I will certainly head for the area I know there will not be any guns! When will the sheeple get it figured out? If bad guys want a gun, no registration process is going to stop them from getting one.

A properly trained civilian with a gun surely would have helped stop this senseless rampage.

[jednp]

Originally Posted by daveofspades

Actually, Jed, they do blame the cigarettes and/or the cigarette companies. I mean, we've known for 30+ years that smoking was bad for you and yet people still pick it up. It must be someone else's fault...

They blame bars for drunk drivers, guns for shootings, Bush for Katrina, etc.

It's human nature.


DD

http://the-green-side.blogspot.com/

People blame cigarettes and the companies. but govt doesn't do anything about that, they only care to do anything about something which is our right. Sure, govt is making it harder in some places for smokers to light up in buildings, but they're not taking cigarettes away from people. and they're not taking alcohol away from people.

One thing people actually do in these situations, aside from occasionally blaming cigarette companies, and alcohol companies, is they actually blame the individual for the action. Sure, a bar may have sold beer to this guy who just drove home drunk, but isn't it the personal responsibility of that person to have a DD? Or isn't it the responsibility of a smoker to be considerate of others and try and smoke away from them? Nobody seems to blame companies for individuals problems generally. But if 1 person shoots someone with a gun, suddenly all gun manufacturers are evil, and every gun owner is evil. You rarely hear after a shooting, that this person was bad to begin with, and would have hurt someone other ways even if they didn't have a gun. It's always, the gun is bad, this person was bad because of a gun, blah blah blah.

It's time for people to start blaming individuals for problems, not whole groups of people. Because a few morons choose to shoot up a school, doesn't mean all gun owners want to do this. These people aren't "gun owners". they are simply someone who wanted to harm people, who happened to get their hands on some guns. True, they may own guns, but I don't see them as being gun owners. They are criminals, outcasts first. I own guns, and I have a clean criminal record, and all the people I know who own guns and treasure them, share that with me.