Are you prepared to defend yourself without a gun?

[AKC]

Originally Posted by PoWdA

Yep. I trained 2 hours tonight. Completely sore, tapped guys out, got tapped out even more. I am beaten and bloodied. It is beautiful. We rolled hard tonight. First class was 15 minutes technique, 15 rolling, 15 tech, 15 rolling. Second class was 20 minutes warm ups, 20 minutes technique, 10 minutes rolling, 5 minutes or so to do 100 push ups, and then 5 more minutes of rolling. Talk about a work out.

Drilled a lot of double legs tonight in the first class followed by a sick choke, drilled a sweep the second class and got our asses kicked by our health nut instructor. Great mix. I was soaking sweat through my gi before the first class was over and then trained even harder the second class.

Yeah the live sparring (rolling) part of BJJ really appeals to me. Same in Judo. Love me some randori. That is a big reason the other arts don't appeal to me as much. I mean I can train BJJ and spar at 100% and execute great technique, truly submit my opponent, and come out uninjured but with the striking arts it is much harder to simulate actual combat without you or your training partner getting injured. It isn't that those arts aren't great, I have dabbled in Muay Thai and Kung Fu, but you just can't spar the same as grappling arts and therefore the training can never quite equate (IMO).

So yeah. Love it. I train 2 hours a day 3 days a week and have been for about 3 years. Everyone should try BJJ. It is some good stuff. Even old guys can do it

God I love BJJ. Other than my family it is my life.

Okay I've joked around in this thread. So here's my 2.

Anyone who tells you MMA wont help you in a street fight is full of it. Especially if you are well rounded in BJJ and striking.

BJJ was developed by hardcore street fighting Brazilians like the Gracies Street fights often end up on the ground which was the basis of the system. As well as Shuto Box which is a very aggressive form of kickboxing.

Hello, Vanderle Silva! That guy grew up street fighting as did many of the Brazilian fighters and they are generally some pretty mean mofos!

I can tell you my martial arts background definitely helped me in street fights in my younger days.

I've put a guy bigger than me through a window at a house party.

I dont train anymore but I still love MMA. That part of me has taken a backseat to playing drums for my band. But with the years of training I had since I was 10 years old through my 20's. I know I can still hold my own.

[CHR_EDW]

Currently train in kyokushin but only for a couple hours a week and mostly to be able to do something with my kid. It does have a lot of practical application but some is still for tradition. In our style groin strikes are legal and do count for points in tournaments.


Most martial arts including mma are geared to sport and not self defense. It is good getting comfortable with hitting and taking hits. I have given some consideration to krav maga and might could get into if I found the right instructor. For everyone that advocates bjj for self defense is not living in reality. There is always a chance that the guy you are trying to get a choke or lock on has a buddy that will stomp your head in.

I have a martial art supply company and make a living because of it being a sport and a business to instructors.



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[PoWdA]

Originally Posted by CHR_EDW

Currently train in kyokushin but only for a couple hours a week and mostly to be able to do something with my kid. It does have a lot of practical application but some is still for tradition. In our style groin strikes are legal and do count for points in tournaments.


Most martial arts including mma are geared to sport and not self defense. It is good getting comfortable with hitting and taking hits. I have given some consideration to krav maga and might could get into if I found the right instructor. For everyone that advocates bjj for self defense is not living in reality. There is always a chance that the guy you are trying to get a choke or lock on has a buddy that will stomp your head in.

I have a martial art supply company and make a living because of it being a sport and a business to instructors.



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Yeah if you are saying being proficient in BJJ is a bad thing then lol. Kyokushin is one of the only truly legit forms of Karate left. I have a big guy in Kyokushin out here in Denver if I ever felt like training Karate You may have heard of him, Jōkō Ninomiya.But yeah, BJJ is about as good as it gets in a one on one situation with no weapons. No martial art is good against multiple opponents no matter how they sell it. Sure keeping distance and such is better against multiples and BJJ definitely is not good against more than one guy but one on one, there is nothing better period.

[UncleBuck]

Originally Posted by AKC

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[inanebignate]

Bjj would be good for one on one but also being good at some striking is good. The only potential problem with bjj is if u are in a street fight and get some one in an armbar or Kimora your gonna have to break there arm to stop the conflict.

[EMN83]

Originally Posted by PoWdA

Sure keeping distance and such is better against multiples and BJJ definitely is not good against more than one guy but one on one, there is nothing better period.

I'll agree with you to a point on this, I think BJJ is a little weak in the take down area, a hybrid between greco-roman wrestling would be what I consider the best. Also, BJJ is predicated on the idea (mostly right) that all fights will eventually go to the ground, if the fight doesn't (I've seen plenty that haven't) BJJ isn't as good. All in all, I really think that no one art (except if you consider modern MMA and CSW single arts, which I do) is really the best, which why I think cross training in multiple arts is the best all around.

[AKC]

Originally Posted by EMN83

I'll agree with you to a point on this, I think BJJ is a little weak in the take down area, a hybrid between greco-roman wrestling would be what I consider the best. Also, BJJ is predicated on the idea (mostly right) that all fights will eventually go to the ground, if the fight doesn't (I've seen plenty that haven't) BJJ isn't as good. All in all, I really think that no one art (except if you consider modern MMA and CSW single arts, which I do) is really the best, which why I think cross training in multiple arts is the best all around.

I agree. Thats why todays MMA fighters are so well rounded in most of those aspects.

Go back to the early days of UFC. When there was no weight class, no time limit or rounds, and one of the only rules was no eye gouging. Royce Gracie was beating guys twice his size. It was basically street brawling in a cage.

He changed everything.

Which brings me back to my point earlier that anyone who says an expert MMA guy wont be good in a street fight is full of horse pucky.

I know MMA guys here in Austin.

You do not want to get a street brawl with these guys. I promise you!

[profmike]

I just turned 60 (Really. Like ten minutes ago!). I'm still a pretty big guy at 6'4" and I can still throw a punch or two but I'm not the bad a** that I used to be. So no, I'm not prepared to defend myself without a gun unless you count the SOG Flash II in my weak side hip pocket. That's why I carry. And it is also comforting to hang out with my baby brother, Tommy, who stands 6'8".

[DonB]

I did have martial arts training years ago and most likely couldn't do many of the physical movements anymore, but I do remember many of the good strike points if I would get the first blow in. One thing that I have always rememberd what my instructor said....all of the martial arts training in the world isn't going to help you if someone sucker punches you.

[Scoobywagon]

I wouldn't say that I train in any particular martial art. However, I do spar regularly with a couple of people who train religiously. My style is a strange mix of the bits and pieces that I've picked up over the years starting with the Marine Corps' old L.I.N.E. style and adding bits of judo, jiu jitsu, escrima and others. In the end, they're all designed to inflict the greatest possible injury in the least possible time, even though none of it was ever intended to work with any of the rest of it.

My sparring partners both describe it as chaotic and therefore hard to counter because I don't always respond in the same way to a particular move or technique. Don't know if that's good, bad or indifferent but it seems to work. I seem to come up on top of our sparring matches about half the time which I'm ok with in this case.

That said, I've never engaged a hostile in hand to hand and I know from armed combat that you never know how you'll respond until you're in it. However, I view an unarmed attack as a valid threat to my safety and that makes it a deadly force encounter. I will therefore do everything in my power to put the bad guy in a pine box since he obviously intends to do the same to me. As with armed combat, I assume that one of us is going to die and proceed accordingly. If, at some point, he wishes to withdraw from the engagement, that's ok, too. But he'd better have some SERIOUS commitment to cause because I know I do.