Again Proving why certain jobs should NOT be Privatized

[Rustynuts]

Similar to the BS worries over guns in the workplace, lifeguard fired for saving a drowning victim. Get this, because it was mere feet outside of the "official" area his company was paid to protect. Company claims liability reasons in case someone starts drowning in their zone. Ahh the old "liability reasons" raise their ugly head to explain stupidity.

Lifeguard fired for helping in beach rescue in Hallandale Beach - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

[EMN83]

not totally sure if this is the best example of to privatize or not privatize....then again, I take the Dilbert perspective on things, I'm not anti-business, I'm anti idiot...having worked for a state park, I've seen similar stupidity in the public sector.

[Montourage]

Yeah I think that company sucks. It sounds like something the Army would do. They are more about following rules to the T than a common sense approach. I could see them reprimanding someone that left their post even if it saved someones life.

[Ocean82]

Originally Posted by Montourage

Yeah I think that company sucks. It sounds like something the Army would do. They are more about following rules to the T than a common sense approach. I could see them reprimanding someone that left their post even if it saved someones life.

Exactly. This is isn't a privatized vs government operated example. This is an example of poor policy making and zero tolerance.

[Ianthelmt]

Originally Posted by Ocean82

Exactly. This is isn't a privatized vs government operated example. This is an example of poor policy making and zero tolerance.

As a former Ocean Rescue lifeguard I agree with you, this place should be boycotted. I've worked public and private. It's all about knowing the place not working wherever will pay you. So much more goes into it behind the scenes... Stocking the med kits with up to date supplies... Aed on Site... Walkie talkies.. Action plans.... I think the family of the victim should sue the biz as a f$@&* you type thing

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[Buckaroo]

That's not a problem with privatizing- it's a problem with our litigious society requiring every action to be legally defined lest the actor (and everyone associated with that person) be sued for acting outside those legally defined limits.

[EMN83]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

That's not a problem with privatizing- it's a problem with our litigious society requiring every action to be legally defined lest the actor (and everyone associated with that person) be sued for acting outside those legally defined limits.

pretty much...in this case all the life guard has to say is that they didn't respond because if while doing so, some drowned in their area of responsibility, they could be sued.....it is the litigious society we live in that is at fault

[Rustynuts]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

That's not a problem with privatizing- it's a problem with our litigious society requiring every action to be legally defined lest the actor (and everyone associated with that person) be sued for acting outside those legally defined limits.

Saying someone shouldn't sue when something happens that is not their fault is hogwash. Blaming the victim. Shotgun suing happens because corps play hide the buck and pawn off liability games too and practice litigate to submission and appeal to perpetuity games because they are rich enough.

Still, privates are more likely to take "advantage" of such situation. Reducing potential "liability" wherever possible (just look at all the anti-gun rules, 30-06 signs, etc.). Cutting costs, reducing staff all in the name of max profits. Yes, Gov can be idiots too, but they tend to also be job creators and have two lifeguards per station. How many times have corps been caught playing the it's cheaper to insure than prevent game?

[EMN83]

Originally Posted by Rustynuts

Still, privates are more likely to take "advantage" of such situation. Reducing potential "liability" wherever possible (just look at all the anti-gun rules, 30-06 signs, etc.). Cutting costs, reducing staff all in the name of max profits. Yes, Gov can be idiots too, but they tend to also be job creators and have two lifeguards per station. How many times have corps been caught playing the it's cheaper to insure than prevent game?

Gotta say I disagree...Having worked for different public institutions for the last 10 years, I actually would feel better with private companies doing more. Passing the buck happens all the time in the public sector. private entities reduce "liabilities" and public places ignore ignore, in my experience

[Rustynuts]

Still I never saw them do this on Baywatch!