Fundamentalists use "Nessie" to Disprove Evolution!

[Rustynuts]

LOLOLOLOLOL

Really, how idiotic can they get. I feel sad for their brainwashed children.

Christian Fundamentalists Teach US Children Loch Ness Monster Is Real To Disprove Evolution

A state in America is paying for children to attend fundamentalist schools where the existence of the Loch Ness monster is taught as fact in an effort to disprove the theory of evolution.
School children in the southern state of Louisiana are to receive vouchers, provided by the government, enabling them to attend private schools which teach the Accelerated Christian Education curriculum (ACE).


Children will be told that the Loch Ness monster is real
One ACE textbook asks: "Are dinosaurs alive today? Scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence. Have you heard of the 'Loch Ness Monster' in Scotland? 'Nessie' for short has been recorded on sonar from a small submarine, described by eyewitnesses, and photographed by others. Nessie appears to be a plesiosaur."


Another claim includes a Japanese whaling boat catching a dinosaur, according to Herald Scotland.


Jonny Scaramanga, a 27-year-old musician who was educated via the ACE programme, told the Scottish paper said it is common for creationists to believe in sea monsters.
"They're saying if Noah's flood only happened 4000 years ago, which they believe literally happened, then possibly a sea monster survived. If it was millions of years ago then that would be ridiculous. That's their logic."
Around 6,000 schools teach the controversial curriculum in more than 140 countries, including the UK, although they are not funded by the state. In 2009, a UK government agency ruled ACE's exams - International Certificate of Christian Education (ICCE) - were equivalent to A-levels. Material on the course includes:

• The Loch Ness monster disproves evolution
• Apartheid was beneficial to South Africa as segregated schools meant different heritages could be passed on to children
• Unquestionable proof exists for creationism

Darwinism and the theory of evolution has traditionally been seen as a threat to Christianity as many claim it proves God does not exist.
Roger Stanyard, spokesman for the British Centre for Science Education, told the Huffington Post the organisation has had widespread concerns over the issue for many years.
"The main worry we have had is the creationist movement getting into education by the back door - which is what has happened in the States.
"We think these sort of tactics are likely to be deployed in the UK as we do not have the protection of a separation between the Church and state. A third of schools teaching children are run by religious organisations - that's the danger we have in the UK. They are free to endorse right-wing politics."
Lawsuits have been launched in America, seeking to throw out the education policies, introduced by Governor Bobby Jindal.

[Ridge]

I'm picturing God doing a face palm LOL

[DanTheEldest]

I'm a Christian and sympathetic to many fine Christian schools out there, but that gets a from me.

[EMN83]

Originally Posted by Ridge

I'm picturing God doing a face palm LOL

Originally Posted by DanTheEldest

I'm a Christian and sympathetic to many fine Christian schools out there, but that gets a from me.

combine these 2 and that pretty much sums up my response

[DanTheEldest]

However, I think a telling part of it comes at the end:

"We think these sort of tactics are likely to be deployed in the UK as we do not have the protection of a separation between the Church and state. A third of schools teaching children are run by religious organisations - that's the danger we have in the UK. They are free to endorse right-wing politics."

The example given (Nessie, etc) is effective because of shock value, and it throws egg on the face of all Christian education by extension (which was the goal), but it really comes down to politics and control rather than science. Kids who home-school or attend private schools are beyond the reach of state-run indoctrination. If you put kids in state schools, they are taught what the state wants them to hear. Remove the state from the education equation, and its ability to systematically indoctrinate new generations is undermined.

[Rustynuts]

Not everyone has the access/means for private schools though. To me, keeping this kind of stuff out of public schools is EXACTLY why separation of church/state needs to be maintained. And also why big voting blocks of ANY religion is so dangerous. Religious Right is just one example. It's the democratic way, but still dangerous nonetheless.

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Rustynuts

Not everyone has the access/means for private schools though. To me, keeping this kind of stuff out of public schools is EXACTLY why separation of church/state needs to be maintained. And also why big voting blocks of ANY religion is so dangerous. Religious Right is just one example. It's the democratic way, but still dangerous nonetheless.

Dangerous to whom?

[agalindo]

It's not the Christian part that we should be looking at but the "fundamentalist" part of the article. All religions have their wackos.

[Eremius]

Originally Posted by Rustynuts

Religious Right is just one example. It's the democratic way, but still dangerous nonetheless.

It's exactly the opposite. The Religious Right movement is the squealing, bat crap crazy minority.

[katokahn99]

Originally Posted by agalindo

It's not the Christian part that we should be looking at but the "fundamentalist" part of the article. All religions have their wackos.

Just because a Christian is a fundamentalist doesn't make him or her a wacko.

Do some research: There are Independent, Fundamental, Baptist Churches out there that are called that because:
1. Independent: They are not governed by a broader convention of leaders like the Southern Baptist Convention
2. Fundamental: Because they believe in certain fundamentals fo the faith. A little research will show that these "fundamentals" are a far cry from anything that would quallify them as wackos...much less violent extremits.

These fundamentals are:

• We believe in the verbal inspiration and authority of the Scriptures.
• We believe that the Bible reveals God, the fall of man, the way of salvation, and God's planned purpose in the ages.
• We believe in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. We believe that salvation is "by grace" plus nothing, minus nothing.
• We believe that men are justified by faith alone and are accounted righteous before God only through the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
• We believe in the visible, personal, and premillenial return of Jesus Christ.
• We believe in the everlasting conscious blessedness of the saved and the everlasting conscious punishment of the lost.

Note that these fundamentals have nothing to do with blowing anybody up or marching on funerals of fallen service men and women with signs that say "God hates F**s" or anything ungraceous or mean-spirited.

Yes, there are wacko "Christians" out there; but, it's not the "Fundamentalists" per se...and to lump all "fundamentalists" in to this category is unfair and mean spirited.