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Would be interested in your take on it.
the 6k year thing came from a guy in the 1800s who ...
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the 6k year thing came from a guy in the 1800s who decided to try to figure out the age of the earth. the key there is try. There is nothing in the bible that explicitly gives clue to the age of the earth. The 6k figure was 1 guys interpretation, nothing more.
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Easy there, nobody said anything about blowing people up or calling them **** etc... .
I was making a point that lumping all christian schools to this reported type is unfair and that SOME fundamentalist will go out of their way to support their position. NO NOT ALL SOME.
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Fair enough.
My response is mainly to the common use of the word "fundamentalist" in journalism today. A casual scan through news articles using the word "fundamentalist" is compelling enough to cause one to have to admit that it is used in the MSM to indicate all that is most undesirable about religion...esp. violent extremism. There seems to be an automatic correlation between "fundamentalism" and negative attitudes towards anything that that word is tied to.
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Originally Posted by EMN83
the 6k year thing came from a guy in the 1800s who decided to try to figure out the age of the earth. the key there is try. There is nothing in the bible that explicitly gives clue to the age of the earth. The 6k figure was 1 guys interpretation, nothing more.
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IC. I was just going off general chronology of the listed generations in the Bible and how old it says so n so lived. about 2000 yrs. between Adam and David, about 2000 yrs. between David and the Christ, and over 2000 yrs. since. I am no scholar by any stretch of the imagination. So, please pardon me if incorrect.
Interesting in very least.
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IC. I was just going off general chronology of the listed generations in the Bible and how old it says so n so lived. about 2000 yrs. between Adam and David, about 2000 yrs. between David and the Christ, and over 2000 yrs. since. I am no scholar by any stretch of the imagination. So, please pardon me if incorrect.
Interesting in very least.
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There's the error. The generational chronology of the Bible only mentions people of notoriety.
Example:
Your grandfather was famous. Your dad and you, not so much. Your son takes after his great-grandfather. The latter two get mentioned, while you and your dad do not.
The error comes in multiplying each name in the Bible by 40 or 70 years, depending on whose equation you want to use. The grand total, done by a Catholic clergyman in the 1800s, came up with the approximate age of 6,000 years, based upon the assumption that everyone has an honorable mention in their genealogy.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N.E. Tx.XD
IC. I was just going off general chronology of the listed generations in the Bible and how old it says so n so lived. about 2000 yrs. between Adam and David, about 2000 yrs. between David and the Christ, and over 2000 yrs. since. I am no scholar by any stretch of the imagination. So, please pardon me if incorrect.
Interesting in very least.
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gotcha...in Gen 1, where it said God created the heavens and the earth, there is no timeline for that, and that happened before everything else in the Bible, so, it is impossible to try to make an accurate timeline when the whole thing isn't spelled out. People look at the 7 days thing and forget that the earth predated that, the Bible even says that
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On a completely serious note: what is the official Christian stance on Dinosaurs?
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So they use a creature that hasn't been proven to exist to disprove evolution, but have no problem using a God that hasn't been proven to exist to prove creationism......hypocrites.
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On a completely serious note: what is the official Christian stance on Dinosaurs?
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there isn't one...as far as I know
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there isn't one...as far as I know
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Then I nominate that the Vatican and the "Vatican for protestants" adopt my official stance on dinosaurs; They are awesome.
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I've heard it said that the moderates of a religion provide enough of a cover for the crazy extremists to exist outside insane asylums. The idea of a fundamentalist seems at odds with itself. Jesus was incredibly peaceful - "give to the poor", "love your neighbor", "give to caesar what is caesar's", etc - while the rest of the book (notably the old testament, but Paul wrote his share) is chock full of genocide and chauvinism. The amount of "interpretation" required to rectify this seems it would remove the possibility of being a "fundamentalist".
But more to the point, it seems the article was more about the furthering of religion via taxpayer money, and while the nessy incident is an outlying occurrence, it was nonetheless taught to many children as established fact.
As for the age of the earth, there have been a few approximations (most between 6k and 13k years), but evolution and creationism are not necessarily at odds - "theistic evolution".
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