Justice Dept weighs in on police trying to criminalize the recording their activityThis is a discussion on Justice Dept weighs in on police trying to criminalize the recording their activity within the XDTalk Chatter Box forums, part of the XD Talk category; What they say, in the most polite and informed way possible, is "back the **** off".
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Because recording police officers in the public ...
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05-16-2012, 11:09 PM
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Justice Dept weighs in on police trying to criminalize the recording their activity
What they say, in the most polite and informed way possible, is "back the **** off".
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Because recording police officers in the public discharge of their duties is protected by
the First Amendment, policies should prohibit interference with recording of police activities
except in narrowly circumscribed situations. More particularly, policies should instruct officers
that, except under limited circumstances, officers must not search or seize a camera or recording
device without a warrant. In addition, policies should prohibit more subtle actions that may
nonetheless infringe upon individuals’ First Amendment rights. Officers should be advised not
to threaten, intimidate, or otherwise discourage an individual from recording police officer
enforcement activities or intentionally block or obstruct cameras or recording devices.
Policies should prohibit officers from destroying recording devices or cameras and
deleting recordings or photographs under any circumstances. In addition to violating the First
Amendment, police officers violate the core requirements of the Fourteenth Amendment
procedural due process clause when they irrevocably deprived individuals of their recordings
without first providing notice and an opportunity to object.
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The whole thing:
http://www.jeffjacobsen.org/justice_...video_cops.pdf
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05-16-2012, 11:13 PM
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Unless you are in Chicago... then all bets are off!
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05-16-2012, 11:14 PM
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Good read, Thanks!
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05-16-2012, 11:18 PM
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did the DoJ, ya know... the guys that see US, the citizens of this country as their enemy, just STAND UP FOR US?
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05-16-2012, 11:22 PM
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Notice Holder's signature was not on the bottom of the letter? just sayin...
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“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”-- George Washington
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05-16-2012, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonehead
did the DoJ, ya know... the guys that see US, the citizens of this country as their enemy, just STAND UP FOR US?
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Don't read more into then is there, just wait, the DoJ will start the law suits against American citizens soon. Citizens will learn not to mess with Holder and his gang! DoJ will create a crisis and you know what happens then!
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05-16-2012, 11:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonehead
did the DoJ, ya know... the guys that see US, the citizens of this country as their enemy, just STAND UP FOR US?
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you just saw the 2nd page of Barack Obamas re-election campaign, the first being gay marriage.
Think about it, if that didn't happen Romney would have used it against him at election time, also its another issue the SCOTUS would slap him with very soon. He didn't have a choice
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05-16-2012, 11:36 PM
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Public servants ought to expect everything they say and do on public time to be subject to recording.
Leave them the F alone on their own time though.
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05-16-2012, 11:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TStick
Public servants ought to expect everything they say and do on public time to be subject to recording.
Leave them the F alone on their own time though.
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When is an LEO ever off duty. They may be out of uniform but if the see you do something wrong they will probably act as an officer of the law, and whip out the badge and backup weapon and do his job.
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05-17-2012, 01:10 PM
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"Hello, is this the bank? I just wanted to let you know that I will be robbing you tomorrow, so could you please turn off your security cameras as I don't want to be on video. Thanks and have a good day."
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