New evidence in the Zimmerman case supports Zimmerman.This is a discussion on New evidence in the Zimmerman case supports Zimmerman. within the XDTalk Chatter Box forums, part of the XD Talk category; Originally Posted by cz75luver
Neither can I. I'm so excited.
I just bet you are, troll....
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04-24-2012, 02:47 PM
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Neither can I. I'm so excited.
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I just bet you are, troll.
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04-24-2012, 02:47 PM
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And yet, you STILL can't demonstrate why the initial ruling needed to be overturned.
Stop helping.
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It has been stated time and time again. Go back and look for it.
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04-24-2012, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cz75luver
I bolded and underscored the part that Zimmerman did not do. He could have stayed in his vehicle and met the responding officer as he was directed to do, but didn't. He didn't escape anything when he decided to get out of his vehicle and pursue Martin.
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lol, um no. Using your argument you can basically state that he's guilty for just getting out of bed in the morning. The escape clause is for during the altercation not before the altercation takes place. Unless you expected Zimmerman to teleport through the ground to China I don't see how you can use it.
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04-24-2012, 02:50 PM
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In light of recent news where large groups of black people are killing or nearly killing lone white people, remember who the trolls on this very site are, and remember that they will HAPPILY throw you under the bus if given the opportunity.
Maybe it would be better if you just accepted the beatdown, but they might try to lynch you for that, too.
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04-24-2012, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fixxer
And yet, you STILL can't demonstrate why the initial ruling needed to be overturned.
Stop helping.
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The only reason is race, mob rule, and sensationalism by the media. Unless the prosecution is hiding some breaking news evidence that was not presented in their affidavit then this whole reinvestigation is a farce. Plain and simple.
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04-24-2012, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cz75luver
It has been stated time and time again. Go back and look for it.
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No, it hasn't. You can look for yourself.
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04-24-2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dal1as
I wonder how our founding fathers would look at this case? The only mistake I feel Zimmerman made was a lack of situational awareness and getting blindsided. I don't believe he expected a confrontation at all and keeping tabs on a suspicious person in an area ravaged by crime should be expected. Sorry but they should have stuck to their guns. This case never should have went to court and even now a murder 2 charge is outright ridiculous. The prosuctions affidavit is a joke.
The only good thing about the trial is that it lessens the effects of mob rule and the riots that will soon follow.
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If a person pokes at a wasps nest, they should expect to be stung. Same here, if a person goes looking for trouble, chances are they'll find it. Z went looking for trouble and found it. The law shouldn't allow a person to later scream "victim" for something they did out of stupidity. It's similar to how so many went over their heads into a mortgage and later cried when they couldn't make the payments and lost their homes. It's their fault.
But I agree, I think he'll walk free.
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04-24-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by br0ck
Yeah... for an area that is apparently as crime ridden as people are claiming it to be... to follow someone by car and foot in that crime ridden area with the reasonable belief that there won't be some sort of confrontation seems a little off to me. It seems to me like following someone who is "up to no good" and possibly "on drugs" is a high indicator that there very well could be a confrontation well beyond an exchange of pleasantries and good days.
*I* would think the reasonable and safe thing to do (if that area is known for its crime) would be to stay in my vehicle after reporting the suspicious fellow. Maybe my logical reasoning is a bit off though.
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Stop it, stop it, . . . that makes too much sense.
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04-24-2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cz75luver
Actually, according to Florida law, you're allowed to use equal force unless a felony is being committed. You are not authorized to use deadly force for a misdemeanor.
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Misdemeanor or felony is irrelevant to the basic premise. An aggressor and become the defender and vice versa in both a misdemeanor or felony case.
In Zimmerman's case, what might have been a misdemeanor assault at first, quickly escalated into felony assault and what may soon be determined to be a lawful use of deadly force.
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04-24-2012, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dal1as
Smashing someones head in is attempted murder = felony.
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Ah, but if Z participated in the escalation, that doesn't quite work. As mentioned, he didn't have to exit his vehicle. It was suggested that he not.
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