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Brickboy240 · 04-04-2006, 09:49 AM

Yeah, it is kind of silly to see cars like Vettes and the various roadsters of European make with automatic trannies. My brother bought his Z4 with the 6 speed manual and I have driven it several times. It would not be the same with an automatic.

I also don't know why people bother with Mustang convertibles with all the stripes and spoiler that have V-6s...why bother. The only reason to get a Mustang is for the V-8 and a standard.

A neighbor bought a 330i convertible with the automatic...sad, but its his commuter car and I cannot blame him for not wanting to be driving a stick in the stop and go traffic. I did that for several years wit my old 1989 GLI Jetta and hated it.

Both our Volvos are automatics. Why? Because we're in our late 30s and have kids and have to commute...thats why. They're not sports cars, but people movers and move very well, they surely do.

I would have bought the Tundra with a standard tranny, but Toyota does not offer the standard tranny with the V-8 in the SR5 Tundra. Why..I do not know. Not even the 4WD models come with a stick as an option and thats a shame. A 5-speed with the I-force 4.7 V-8 would be very quick, indeed.

Porsches? My mechanic always has lots of them in his shop, when we take one of the Volvos over for regular maintenance. They're cars that require too much upkeep for me, sorry. They're also appealing to the "look at me" types of which I am not a member or a fan. Fast cars that appeal to me? The Volvo S-60R, BMW 540 and the Lexus IS300 do it for me. Sorry, but if a car does not have 4 doors, for my useage, it might as well be a damn motorcycle...gotta have 4 doors.

Obviously, if I can drive two Volvos, I am not worried about my "size" either. LOL

- Brickboy240

**nikon777** · 04-04-2006, 01:37 PM

+1 on the S60-R. Shes one sexy girl. Wish i had the cash

cucamelsmd15 · 04-04-2006, 05:51 PM

Ill take 1097 HP in a built Supra with 6-speed on 20.9lbs of boost. And its a daily driver too, friend of mines.

I was relatively impressed with the Z06 vettes until a few weeks ago, when I saw one out on the track a few of my buddies were at. I watched in disbelief as a stock, mind you, Honda S2000 gave that vette a run for the money around the track. On the straights, it was no contest, but in the corners? Honda all the way. I could not believe my eyes

DanaT · 04-04-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Porsches? My mechanic always has lots of them in his shop, when we take one of the Volvos over for regular maintenance. They're cars that require too much upkeep for me, sorry. They're also appealing to the "look at me" types of which I am not a member or a fan.

Actaullt Porsches are very low maintenance as far as European sports cars go. I can tell you my experience with my first Porsche. I put 125K mile on it. In that time, I put in oil changes, a clutch, voltage regulator, brake pads, shock, and a new cap and rotor,and of coarse tires. Thats it. Not bad for 125K miles. My Grand Cherokee has needed alot more than that.

Teh Chevy truck I had needed more than that within the first 1000 miles (the truck totally died with 700 miles on the odo).

As far as family cars. Yeah I agree. Thats why my porsche is a toy. It sits in the garage along wth my motorcycle. They are toys.

-Dana

RobKong · 04-04-2006, 07:52 PM

This thread is worse than some of the gun threads I see on the car boards I frequent

WARHEAD'Z · 04-04-2006, 08:14 PM

YOU YOUNGSTERS WITH YOUR RICE-EATERS AND GERMAN-JAMMERS

Now days "sports" cars have to have 6+ gears and turbo and happy gas etc. but.....WHERE'S THE CUBIC INCHES? You all talk about $50K+ exotic cars like you got em falling out of your back pocket. When I was hot roddin' my crowd had 454ci Chevelles and running thru Turbo400 trannys into 12bolt posi axles with 4:56 gears and 396cu Camaros with 5:13 gears. My first car was a big block OLDSMOBILE that that listed @ 470ft.lbs of torque and 375HP @ 4800 RPM stock from the factory. It came with a steel forged crank and could very easily get into 600HP with some minor tuning. This was with normal air induction. Add your nitrous and make it a rocket. Automatics are much more consistent when drag racing with an engine that has torque on the bottom end. Sticks are better for high revving 4 bangers but TORQUE IS WHAT GETS YOU ACCELERATING and side by side using the same gear ratios unless traction is the limiting factor the BIGGER engine will always come out ahead. Horsepower is simply a measurement of the overall work being peformed by the engine. THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES.

DanaT · 04-04-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WARHEAD'Z

You all talk about $50K+ exotic cars like you got em falling out of your back pocket.

What are you talking about?

-Dana

cucamelsmd15 · 04-04-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WARHEAD'Z

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES.

Actually, there is. Its called knowing how to use what youve got. Case in point? The S2000 vs. the Vette.

theanswriz42 · 04-04-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15

Quote:

Originally Posted by WARHEAD'Z

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES.

Actually, there is. Its called knowing how to use what youve got. Case in point? The S2000 vs. the Vette.

Psst. A vette will beat a S2000 stock for stock. I'm talking most C4s, C5s and C6s

WARHEAD'Z · 04-06-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cucamelsmd15

Quote:

Originally Posted by WARHEAD'Z

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES.

Actually, there is. Its called knowing how to use what youve got. Case in point? The S2000 vs. the Vette.

I guess that mean that you think an S2000 engine transplanted into the Corvette would allow the Corvette to go faster????? What a joke.

Have you actually been involved in a side by side race or do you merely draw your end conclusion from a biased rice-rocket tuner magazine. Believe me I have heard most all of these auto arguments. Sure a small engine can be "juiced" in order to outrun a LARGE engine but it is only temporary and as soon as the juice runs out the so does the speed. A larger engine is built beefier and therefore it causes less overall stress to the structure to run it hard. A smaller engine when "pushed" will simply wear out faster.
Cubic inches are what multiplies the formula for power in order to make torque. Torque is what causes the car to accelerate. Top-fuel dragsters and Nitromethane powered funny cars don't break speed records using small displacement 4 cyl engines. If engine size were not a main factor then you would be bragging about how fast your 1 cylinder Briggs-Stratton engine can push your Honda.

HEMI DODGE VS. HERNIA HONDA..... Film at 11

04-04-2006, 09:49 AM	#31
Brickboy240 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 9,853	Yeah, it is kind of silly to see cars like Vettes and the various roadsters of European make with automatic trannies. My brother bought his Z4 with the 6 speed manual and I have driven it several times. It would not be the same with an automatic. I also don't know why people bother with Mustang convertibles with all the stripes and spoiler that have V-6s...why bother. The only reason to get a Mustang is for the V-8 and a standard. A neighbor bought a 330i convertible with the automatic...sad, but its his commuter car and I cannot blame him for not wanting to be driving a stick in the stop and go traffic. I did that for several years wit my old 1989 GLI Jetta and hated it. Both our Volvos are automatics. Why? Because we're in our late 30s and have kids and have to commute...thats why. They're not sports cars, but people movers and move very well, they surely do. I would have bought the Tundra with a standard tranny, but Toyota does not offer the standard tranny with the V-8 in the SR5 Tundra. Why..I do not know. Not even the 4WD models come with a stick as an option and thats a shame. A 5-speed with the I-force 4.7 V-8 would be very quick, indeed. Porsches? My mechanic always has lots of them in his shop, when we take one of the Volvos over for regular maintenance. They're cars that require too much upkeep for me, sorry. They're also appealing to the "look at me" types of which I am not a member or a fan. Fast cars that appeal to me? The Volvo S-60R, BMW 540 and the Lexus IS300 do it for me. Sorry, but if a car does not have 4 doors, for my useage, it might as well be a damn motorcycle...gotta have 4 doors. Obviously, if I can drive two Volvos, I am not worried about my "size" either. LOL - Brickboy240 __________________ The top 25% of wage earners in America pay 86% of all federal income taxes collected. (according to 2007 IRS website data) Es mejor morir a pie que vivir arrodillado Volvo...the Swedish Brick!

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04-04-2006, 05:51 PM	#33
cucamelsmd15 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,462	Ill take 1097 HP in a built Supra with 6-speed on 20.9lbs of boost. And its a daily driver too, friend of mines. I was relatively impressed with the Z06 vettes until a few weeks ago, when I saw one out on the track a few of my buddies were at. I watched in disbelief as a stock, mind you, Honda S2000 gave that vette a run for the money around the track. On the straights, it was no contest, but in the corners? Honda all the way. I could not believe my eyes

04-04-2006, 08:14 PM	#36
WARHEAD'Z XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 599	YOU YOUNGSTERS WITH YOUR RICE-EATERS AND GERMAN-JAMMERS Now days "sports" cars have to have 6+ gears and turbo and happy gas etc. but.....WHERE'S THE CUBIC INCHES? You all talk about $50K+ exotic cars like you got em falling out of your back pocket. When I was hot roddin' my crowd had 454ci Chevelles and running thru Turbo400 trannys into 12bolt posi axles with 4:56 gears and 396cu Camaros with 5:13 gears. My first car was a big block OLDSMOBILE that that listed @ 470ft.lbs of torque and 375HP @ 4800 RPM stock from the factory. It came with a steel forged crank and could very easily get into 600HP with some minor tuning. This was with normal air induction. Add your nitrous and make it a rocket. Automatics are much more consistent when drag racing with an engine that has torque on the bottom end. Sticks are better for high revving 4 bangers but TORQUE IS WHAT GETS YOU ACCELERATING and side by side using the same gear ratios unless traction is the limiting factor the BIGGER engine will always come out ahead. Horsepower is simply a measurement of the overall work being peformed by the engine. THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES.