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Jettubby · 03-24-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooz

I shipped out my XD-40 the other day via FedEx. I told the lady it was a firearm, she told me it had to be inoperable, I lied and said, "Yeah. It is."

You can also just walk in a ship it ground or three day. Why do you have to tell them it's a firearm? I don't go to FedEx and tell them, "Well in this package I have my grandmother's undies that she left at my house and..." Did they ask you if it was a firearm? There's no government law that stipulates "how" you have to ship via FedEx or UPS. You are not breaking the law, only UPS or FedEx guidelines that you had no idea about.

Hooz · 03-24-2006, 06:29 PM

I read somewhere that you have to inform them that it is a firearm, but you are not required to say so anywhere on the package. So... I guess I see your point.

WaltherP99 · 03-24-2006, 06:42 PM

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You can also just walk in a ship it ground or three day.

Long guns yes but handguns NO! Handguns MUST go next day air!

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Why do you have to tell them it's a firearm?

Because it's company policy!

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You are not breaking the law, only UPS or FedEx guidelines that you had no idea about.

http://www.thegunzone.com/ship-guns.html

Actually I do believe it is a FEDERAL law that you must inform them of it being a handgun! Why is telling them such a big problem?

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I told the lady it was a firearm, she told me it had to be inoperable, I lied and said, "Yeah. It is."

That is their policy so let's just hope they didn't find out you were lying!

Cat Juggler: UPS or FED Ex wil ship it but you have to go to a hub (no in-store drop-offs or 3rd party vendors). I just shipped a GLOCK to Georgia last week and had no problem whatsoever! As far as the shipping cost...you may have to eat the cost for sending it but the return shipping should be covered by Springfield. Nothing a phone call to Tech service wouldn't solve! Good luck !

ampleworks · 03-24-2006, 07:04 PM

I've found taking a copy of my C&R with me really speeds up the process. Sure its deceptive but if all the person asks is "do you have a FFL", you reply "yes" and nothing else, then you're not lieing to them. Regardless of whether I'm shipping a C&R eligible item or not.

If you have a copy of the FFL of where you're sending it to...even better.

Damon · 03-24-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jettubby

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Originally Posted by Hooz

I shipped out my XD-40 the other day via FedEx. I told the lady it was a firearm, she told me it had to be inoperable, I lied and said, "Yeah. It is."

You can also just walk in a ship it ground or three day. Why do you have to tell them it's a firearm? I don't go to FedEx and tell them, "Well in this package I have my grandmother's undies that she left at my house and..." Did they ask you if it was a firearm? There's no government law that stipulates "how" you have to ship via FedEx or UPS. You are not breaking the law, only UPS or FedEx guidelines that you had no idea about.

Federal Law requires that you notify the carrier (UPS or FedEx) that it is a firearm.

"(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31] "

Here is the ATF page, under Part B Unlicensed Persons.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b

So Flo · 03-24-2006, 08:05 PM

Yeah, uhhh, a guy I used to know's brother's best friend was told by a fire arms company just to tell them they are "machined parts" if asked. It is suggested to send overnight, but no need to tell them it is a firearm.

AV8R · 03-24-2006, 08:17 PM

So you can field strip it, pack it, and ship it as "machined parts?" Well, that's really a lie, now is it?

WaltherP99 · 03-24-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ampleworks

I've found taking a copy of my C&R with me really speeds up the process. Sure its deceptive but if all the person asks is "do you have a FFL", you reply "yes" and nothing else, then you're not lieing to them. Regardless of whether I'm shipping a C&R eligible item or not.

How would you not be lying to them? In reality you DO NOT have an FFL and you are telling them that you do.....Sounds like a lie to me!

I can't believe how many are openly admitting to breaking the law (or suggesting that someone do so)!

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but no need to tell them it is a firearm.

There is a need when it is a FEDERAL LAW!!!!! Besides, even if it wasn't, what is the big deal with having to inform them that there is a firearm?????

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just to tell them they are "machined parts" if asked.

That would pass for all but the reciever!

Jettubby · 03-24-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Damon

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Originally Posted by Jettubby

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Originally Posted by Hooz

I shipped out my XD-40 the other day via FedEx. I told the lady it was a firearm, she told me it had to be inoperable, I lied and said, "Yeah. It is."

You can also just walk in a ship it ground or three day. Why do you have to tell them it's a firearm? I don't go to FedEx and tell them, "Well in this package I have my grandmother's undies that she left at my house and..." Did they ask you if it was a firearm? There's no government law that stipulates "how" you have to ship via FedEx or UPS. You are not breaking the law, only UPS or FedEx guidelines that you had no idea about.

Federal Law requires that you notify the carrier (UPS or FedEx) that it is a firearm.

"(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31] "

Here is the ATF page, under Part B Unlicensed Persons.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b

I guess I stand corrected. I may have confused with with my FFL as he has different shipping rules such as nonlicensed persons can not ship via USPS but licensed dealers can.

**jalley** · 03-24-2006, 10:27 PM

Federal law requires you to notify fedex or ups that the package contains a firearm. If you do not notify the shipper, you are breaking federal law....As I've said before in other threads, you might not get caught sending it ground, but I'm not willing to take that risk to save a few dollars.

Also, some of you have mentioned that the gun needs to be inoperable...can you please provide a link to that information, becuase it is not a requirement to ship the gun.

03-24-2006, 06:29 PM	#12
Hooz XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hilliard, OH Posts: 2,074	I read somewhere that you have to inform them that it is a firearm, but you are not required to say so anywhere on the package. So... I guess I see your point. __________________ XD-9 Tactical Member: IDPA, USPSA, ASSA, NRA, GOA

03-24-2006, 07:04 PM	#14
ampleworks XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Communistic Ohio Posts: 1,161	I've found taking a copy of my C&R with me really speeds up the process. Sure its deceptive but if all the person asks is "do you have a FFL", you reply "yes" and nothing else, then you're not lieing to them. Regardless of whether I'm shipping a C&R eligible item or not. If you have a copy of the FFL of where you're sending it to...even better. __________________ *Ampleworks*

03-24-2006, 08:05 PM	#16
So Flo XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wellington, Florida Posts: 12,838	Yeah, uhhh, a guy I used to know's brother's best friend was told by a fire arms company just to tell them they are "machined parts" if asked. It is suggested to send overnight, but no need to tell them it is a firearm. __________________ No Guns, Know Crime. Know Guns, No Crime! http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member3984.png

03-24-2006, 08:17 PM	#17
AV8R XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Georgia Posts: 207	So you can field strip it, pack it, and ship it as "machined parts?" Well, that's really a lie, now is it? __________________ GerogiaCarry.org

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03-24-2006, 10:27 PM	#20
jalley XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: WV Posts: 1,409	Federal law requires you to notify fedex or ups that the package contains a firearm. If you do not notify the shipper, you are breaking federal law....As I've said before in other threads, you might not get caught sending it ground, but I'm not willing to take that risk to save a few dollars. Also, some of you have mentioned that the gun needs to be inoperable...can you please provide a link to that information, becuase it is not a requirement to ship the gun.