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Does this change your mind about the NRA?

This is a discussion on Does this change your mind about the NRA? within the XDTalk Chatter Box forums, part of the XD Talk category; Originally Posted by Sirius1963 Question for you ... how many people do you know that own one? Not counting military issue, I mean private ownership. ...

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Old 01-12-2010, 04:42 PM   #71
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Question for you ... how many people do you know that own one? Not counting military issue, I mean private ownership.
None, they don't run in my group of friends. Have never had the need or desire. How about you?
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:28 PM   #72
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People think I'm too crazy for this but to make it prohibitive to own a full auto, I"m ok with that, basically if the weapon costs more to buy in the USA legally, than it does to illegally import it (as long as we have cocain we can import guns) they will not be the weapon of choice. IMO this should only effect low price firearms, because lets be honest, with an MP5 costing 2500, it doesn't make sense to use in a normal crime, so adding price is pointless, but a 200 buck ak47 being full auto... put a stamp on it jack the minimum full auto tag to $1,000 (and adjust down the road) where even second sale has to be $1,000 so they aren't ever cheap.

I think it would solve all the problems. because you cann illegally get a full auto ak47 for 800 bucks or so.
Wow! That is crazy!

Personally, I tend to lean the other way. I think that even the tax stamp requirement for NFA regulated arms is unconstitutional. I think that all those items should be available to anyone legally allowed to own a firearm.

I'm really going to let my inner libertarian loose and say that I also believe that a felony conviction should not preclude a person's right to own a firearm for self defense, as long as they have done their time (I do have different opinions of what "their time" should be, though).

But... In addition to being a libertarian, I am also a realist. I realize that we will never again be as free as the founders intended. But I can still dream!
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:36 PM   #73
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Not at all. Just how do you feel about fully atomatic weapons for everyone?
Lets see, take a look at switzerland. They have essentially this, a full auto weapon in every household. Now look at their crime rates.

So yes I am all for that. Either having served or proper training as a civilian, I am all for it! They should of skipped cash for clunkers and had Autos for Americans!
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:33 PM   #74
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Yes, while serving in the US Army. We are not talking about the weapons being more or less dangerious than other guns. We are talking about what are non-military people going to use a full automatic gun for? Feel free to add your ideas to the discussion.
Then what is the problem with having them?


OP here this thread was not about full auto arms! It was to inform and provoke thought about the NRA! Do not Hijack the thread! Start your own! Thank you.
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:48 PM   #75
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Then what is the problem with having them?


OP here this thread was not about full auto arms! It was to inform and provoke thought about the NRA! Do not Hijack the thread! Start your own! Thank you.
Right, you started this thread by complaining about this link to this statement posted.
STATEMENT OF JOAQUIN JACKSON<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O /><O:P></O:P>
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Recently, some misunderstandings have arisen about a news interview in which I participated a few years ago. After recently watching a tape of that interview, I understand the sincere concerns of many people, including dear friends of mine. And I am pleased and eager to clear up any confusion about my long held belief in the sanctity of the Second Amendment.<O:P></O:P>
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In the interview, when asked about my views of “assault weapons,” I was talking about true assault weapons – fully automatic firearms. I was not speaking, in any way, about semiautomatic rifles. While the media may not understand this critical distinction, I take it very seriously. But, as a result, I understand how some people may mistakenly take my comments to mean that I support a ban on civilian ownership of semiautomatic firearms. Nothing could be further from the truth. And, unfortunately, the interview was cut short before I could fully explain my thoughts and beliefs
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My mind started changing about the NRA when I started getting notices for enrolling in the "Official NRA Wine-of-the-Month Club", or whatever it was. I still think that, on balance, they do more good than harm, but I definitely agree with those who are of the mind that the main mission of the NRA has moved from supporting 2A rights to promoting, growing, and preserving the NRA.
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No sir, I believe that the 2A is an right of the people to keep and bear arms! Not keep a revolver with a gun lock on it! So if I can afford a full auto I should be able to own it. That is the right the 2nd amendment gives Citizens like you and me! That is what the NRA IS SUPPOSE TO PROTECT AND FIGHT FOR! THIS WAS AN INFORMATIVE/ THOUGHT INVOKATIVE POST. I AM THE OP AND I AM ASKING YOU TO NOT THREAD CRAP.
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I would love someone else to start that topic on another thread!

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Right, you started this thread by complaining about this link to this statement posted.
STATEMENT OF JOAQUIN JACKSON<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O /><O:P></O:P>
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Recently, some misunderstandings have arisen about a news interview in which I participated a few years ago. After recently watching a tape of that interview, I understand the sincere concerns of many people, including dear friends of mine. And I am pleased and eager to clear up any confusion about my long held belief in the sanctity of the Second Amendment.<O:P></O:P>
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In the interview, when asked about my views of “assault weapons,” I was talking about true assault weapons – fully automatic firearms. I was not speaking, in any way, about semiautomatic rifles. While the media may not understand this critical distinction, I take it very seriously. But, as a result, I understand how some people may mistakenly take my comments to mean that I support a ban on civilian ownership of semiautomatic firearms. Nothing could be further from the truth. And, unfortunately, the interview was cut short before I could fully explain my thoughts and beliefs
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:54 PM   #78
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It makes me think twice now seeing how they do things now a days, dnt really knw if I want them representing me, but will see how the next couple months go and go frm there,
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