Does this change your mind about the NRA?This is a discussion on Does this change your mind about the NRA? within the XDTalk Chatter Box forums, part of the XD Talk category; Come on guys, who needs a fully automatic rifle? None of my friends have one nor need full automatics. What this guy said is fully ...
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01-11-2010, 08:32 AM
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Come on guys, who needs a fully automatic rifle? None of my friends have one nor need full automatics. What this guy said is fully within the NRA guidelines. Nobody in their right mind would go hunting with a full automatic, or use one for self defense. And as for even owning one, what the hell would you do with it, nothing leagally except shoot it once a year out in your back yard shooting over $100 in ammo. If you want to own one then jump through the hoops and prove you have need for one if you can. If you can't hunt with a bolt action or a semi automatic then you are not a hunter. I thought when the NRA backed owning AK's and AR's they were going over the top. Now some of you want fully automatics? What are you planning to do, start a war? Get real, if you need one for self defense then you are running with the wrong crowd.
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01-11-2010, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rayikeo2
Come on guys, who needs a fully automatic rifle? None of my friends have one nor need full automatics. What this guy said is fully within the NRA guidelines. Nobody in their right mind would go hunting with a full automatic, or use one for self defense. And as for even owning one, what the hell would you do with it, nothing leagally except shoot it once a year out in your back yard shooting over $100 in ammo. If you want to own one then jump through the hoops and prove you have need for one if you can. If you can't hunt with a bolt action or a semi automatic then you are not a hunter. I thought when the NRA backed owning AK's and AR's they were going over the top. Now some of you want fully automatics? What are you planning to do, start a war? Get real, if you need one for self defense then you are running with the wrong crowd.
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First off, there is nothing illegal about using a full auto for self defense.
Second, who cares about "why would you need one?" Thats not the point. The point is, the second amendment says I have the RIGHT not the privallege to own and bear arms. Therefore I should decide what I wish to own. Not the government.
Based on this way of thinking, you could say that everyone only "needs" one handgun for SD and one rifle for hunting
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01-11-2010, 08:51 AM
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I'll probably never need an NFA weapon, but since I've never bothered anybody else on this planet, with guns at least, I ought to be able to own any kind of gun I can afford.
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01-11-2010, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rayikeo2
Come on guys, who needs a fully automatic rifle? None of my friends have one nor need full automatics. What this guy said is fully within the NRA guidelines. Nobody in their right mind would go hunting with a full automatic, or use one for self defense. And as for even owning one, what the hell would you do with it, nothing leagally except shoot it once a year out in your back yard shooting over $100 in ammo. If you want to own one then jump through the hoops and prove you have need for one if you can. If you can't hunt with a bolt action or a semi automatic then you are not a hunter. I thought when the NRA backed owning AK's and AR's they were going over the top. Now some of you want fully automatics? What are you planning to do, start a war? Get real, if you need one for self defense then you are running with the wrong crowd.
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Are you for real? It's not about automatic wepons or AR or, etc. It's about freedom. It's about the rights of being an American. It's about our god given rights and the rights the rights our forefathers bestowed upon us.
Alert! I knew eventually the anti-gunners would come on forums like these and tout their garbage.
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01-11-2010, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rayikeo2
Come on guys, who needs a fully automatic rifle? None of my friends have one nor need full automatics. What this guy said is fully within the NRA guidelines. Nobody in their right mind would go hunting with a full automatic, or use one for self defense. And as for even owning one, what the hell would you do with it, nothing leagally except shoot it once a year out in your back yard shooting over $100 in ammo. If you want to own one then jump through the hoops and prove you have need for one if you can. If you can't hunt with a bolt action or a semi automatic then you are not a hunter. I thought when the NRA backed owning AK's and AR's they were going over the top. Now some of you want fully automatics? What are you planning to do, start a war? Get real, if you need one for self defense then you are running with the wrong crowd.
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it is not about jumping through hoops man, it is about price. since the price on a pre-ban full auto is not something that a regular person, who is protected by the 2nd amendment, can't afford them then it becomes a privilege. also as stated earlier, when the government fears the people there is liberty. why would they fear a bunch of people with lesser weapons and fewer bullets in the mag. you keep with your line of reasoning then i guess that all sports cars should be outlawed too unless you are rich enough and powerful enough to take the tests and buy one? because who would need a car that can go 180 mph? you obviously are going to run from the cops in commision of a crime right? what a joke. vince
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01-11-2010, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dkbikes4life4130
First off, there is nothing illegal about using a full auto for self defense.
Second, who cares about "why would you need one?" Thats not the point. The point is, the second amendment says I have the RIGHT not the privallege to own and bear arms. Therefore I should decide what I wish to own. Not the government.
Based on this way of thinking, you could say that everyone only "needs" one handgun for SD and one rifle for hunting 
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Dillinger said the same thing.
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01-11-2010, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearlaker
I'll probably never need an NFA weapon, but since I've never bothered anybody else on this planet, with guns at least, I ought to be able to own any kind of gun I can afford.
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How about a rocket launcher, do you want one of those in case an airplane attacks you?
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01-11-2010, 09:31 AM
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I think a rocket launcher would be kind of cool, yeah.
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I'd also love to own a Ford GT.
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01-11-2010, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by xd 45 shooter
it is not about jumping through hoops man, it is about price. since the price on a pre-ban full auto is not something that a regular person, who is protected by the 2nd amendment, can't afford them then it becomes a privilege. also as stated earlier, when the government fears the people there is liberty. why would they fear a bunch of people with lesser weapons and fewer bullets in the mag. you keep with your line of reasoning then i guess that all sports cars should be outlawed too unless you are rich enough and powerful enough to take the tests and buy one? because who would need a car that can go 180 mph? you obviously are going to run from the cops in commision of a crime right? what a joke. vince
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Is there a government overthrow group in here that I don't know about?
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01-11-2010, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rayikeo2
Come on guys, who needs a fully automatic rifle? None of my friends have one nor need full automatics. What this guy said is fully within the NRA guidelines. Nobody in their right mind would go hunting with a full automatic, or use one for self defense. And as for even owning one, what the hell would you do with it, nothing leagally except shoot it once a year out in your back yard shooting over $100 in ammo. If you want to own one then jump through the hoops and prove you have need for one if you can. If you can't hunt with a bolt action or a semi automatic then you are not a hunter. I thought when the NRA backed owning AK's and AR's they were going over the top. Now some of you want fully automatics? What are you planning to do, start a war? Get real, if you need one for self defense then you are running with the wrong crowd.
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Originally Posted by Jettubby
Are you for real? It's not about automatic wepons or AR or, etc. It's about freedom. It's about the rights of being an American. It's about our god given rights and the rights the rights our forefathers bestowed upon us.
Alert! I knew eventually the anti-gunners would come on forums like these and tout their garbage.
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Originally Posted by rayikeo2
Dillinger said the same thing. 
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I'd like to suggest that we stop feeding the Troll at this point. As the Troll is fully aware, this is a board fully dedicated to firearms freedoms and 2A. Knowing this, why let him both start and fan the fire? Trolls get hungry and leave when they are not fed and cared for properly.
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